.LOT 6 CRAZY R500 AUCTION -LEWIS HAY – ZA 22 NKR 1326 -Sire: BC C NKR 2247-17 Sebastiaan Klue x Puttrie. Racing: 4th KZN Combine Vosburg (665 km), 5th KZN Senekal (210 km), 7th KZN De Aar (607 km). Bred: 2 x 1st Club, 2 x 1st North KZN Fed., 1st Derby 2022. Bred Ace pigeons: 202332-19 4th YB KZN Combine 2020.———–Dam: BB H NKR 2249-17 “Vosburg 2” Goossen. Top racer & breeder. Racing: Flew many top positions. Best was 2nd (equal 1st with her sister) KZN Combine Vosburg (665 km). 2nd Club (Equal 1st after loft mate) 12th KZN Hanover (600 km). Ace open pigeon: 2019 (60 points clear of the 2nd pigeon) Bred: 2 x 1st Club, 2 x 1st North KZN Fed., 1st Derby 2022. Bred Ace pigeons: 202332-19 4th YB KZN Combine 2020..SEE PEDIGREE!!!

SKU: 46166
Availability: InStock

Winning Bid: R500

Item condition: New

Category: ACTIVE AUCTION - CRAZY R500 AUCTION - FROM 07 OCTOBER TO WEDNESDAY 9 OCTOBER 2024 (ENDING FROM 20:00)

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Highest bidder was: Mike

Date	Bid	User	Auto
7th October 2024 19:33	R500	Mike
7th October 2024 6:41	Auction started

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13th June 2025 20:42	.LOT 8 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 24 DIAS 250 -HALF SIBLING TO BARZALONA RACE WINNER WINNING R200 000.00 ,,,—-SIRE: 507774 DV 20 WONDERBOY JNR. Alfons Klaas First year racing his babies –FATHER OF:— 3270/22: 1. Dinokeng Barzalona Hanover 724km 1488mpm 3285/22: 15. Diaz Race 4 440km Vel:1127mpm.————-DAM:07274-20-409 W.HARDY KRUGER.SIRE IS AN Oustanding Breeder Father to New Carl Lewis –DV07274-18-214– 2020:12/12 Prizes 956 AsP. 1.Ace-Pigeon RV Mittelerft 2.Ace-Pigeon Rheinland 2.Chalon 285km 383 P. 2.Arcis Aube 334 km 340 P. 3.Vouziers 232 km 367 P. 3.Auxerre 424 km 284 P. 3.Auxerre 424 km 226 P. 11.Auxerre 424 km 322 P. 12.Blois 546 km 321 P. 13.Troyes 359 km 344 P. Father from Sellaomi 113.Place in Final 2531b.SAMDPR18/19 Win 9000 Dollar in Nomination 18.Grand Average Bird 1. Place TF (10) 2521 b.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
13th June 2025 19:21	.LOT 2 FATHERSDAY AUCTION – DV 23 05775 3365 -SIRE: 446 ZA 21 OERF .Alias “Inbred Foxtrot” Strain: PSmithxKaasboer Color: BB Son off the Crack Paul Smith cock “Fontwell Foxtrot Romeo” mated to his grandaughter which was 2nd Best Overall pigeon Gauteng Combine 2020! Sire to 12/1655p 162km @ 1116mpm , 51/1646p 189km 8th 480km Centraal Olr 2023 1069mpm 18th Final 596km Centraal Olr 2023 1221mpm.————–DAM: 2225 ZA 22 GRPF .Alias “Quintana” Strain: Africa One Loft Aces Color: Grizzle 12th Race 10 AfrikaPro 2023 – 383km 1183mpm 56th Blue Jacket Ace pigeon up to Race 12 when she broke her wing. Sire was Ace Pigeon Eastern Cape Olr and 2nd Final Dam was 2nd Ace Carnival Olr and 11th Fin.SEEPEDIGREE!!!	leon-theron	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
13th June 2025 17:59	LOT 19 FATHERSDAY AUCTION – ZA 20 PWDU 2318 -SIRE:08223 ZA 15. SUPER RACER FLEW 9 X TOP 27 PWDC. THIS IS A DIRECT SON TO VEGTER AND ZUBIRI.———-DAM:03009 ZA 13. DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS. BRED 3RD BARZALONA DINOKENG OLR 2017.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	cyril	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
13th June 2025 17:24	.LOT 1 FERDIE COETZER – ZA 23 CRU 187 – is an absolute stunning bb cock with the Kittel trademark beautiful feather legs . He is bred from ZA 20 ABL 195 The full brother to dam of ” Turbo Kittel ” the red Kittel hen sold for R338000 recently on top pigeon . This cock has all the attributes of a world class racing pigeon . Magnificent animal . A gem , what an addition this can be . I put all his children to stock .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	zwarts	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
13th June 2025 17:05	.LOT 6 FERDIE COETZER – ZA 24 OERL 2061 – is a bpd Best Kittel hen with the finest muscles i have ever seen . A high class hen bred from my super producing pair Best Kittel 606 x Best Kittel 1523 . I have crossed these pigeons with great results to my family . They are high performing , resilliant and win over all distances and velocities , If you are looking to add world class muscle to your pigeons , this hen is your answer .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	samson	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
13th June 2025 17:00	LOT 14 FATHERSDAY AUCTION – ZA 22 BOTHA LOFTS 20 -SIRE:18642 ZATRPF 16. Superior L/dist. racer and breeder. Bred 2x SANPO Silver L/dist. Bred union winner 2314/20. 17′, 1st L/Dist bird Union, 2nd Comb.; 4 Richmond, 14 Cradock;16 Cradock; 22 Leeu-Gamka; 29 Colesberg. Bred 2314/20 2x SANPO silver L/dist. Full Brother to ZA 08226/15 “17: 1’2YO; 3’Overall; 3’Open, 4’S/Dist. 2nd Gauteng 7982b and 5x Top 30 PWDC..——–DAM: 09520 ZA 14. SCROYENS/GABY. Superior racer and breeder. Bred 2x SANPO Silver L/dist. Bred Union Winner 2314/20. Bred 4x1st, 1x2nd, 6x3rd place winners 2021 with “18642′. 7x top 22 Comb. PWDC: 6(2)Winburg; 9(8) Springfontein; 10(7)Dewetsdorp; 11(7) Dewetsdorp, 13(11) Bloemfontein; 20(16) Smithfield; 30(22) Richmond.SEE PEDIGREE!!	cyril	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
13th June 2025 12:48	LOT 15 FATHERSDAY AUCTION – ZA 23 MOUN 996 -SIRE:DV 19 0507 840. Alias “PURDY’S DREAM BOY” Strain: ALFONS KLAAS Color: BLUE BAR “PURDY’S DREAM BOY”SIRE TO “PETRO” TO ZA20 MOUN 1141 EQUAL 1ST (13TH) AND 10TH PAID PIGEON VICTORIA FALLS HOTSPOT 4 AGAINST 2918 PIG 1603MPM SIRE TO ZA20 MOUN 908 2 X PTA UNINION WINNER SIRE TO ZA22 MOUN 664 MERCURY 1ST AFRIKAPRO RACE 4 2023.————–DAM:ZA 20 MOUN 1157. Alias “BRIGHT STAR” Strain: MOUNTAIN LOFTS Color: BLUE BAR SIRE:NL12 1784280 “ALLES ACHT” HOOYMANS DNA CERTIFIED ONE OF OUR BEST BREEDING COCKS SIRETO 14 WINNERS 9 UNION WINNERS AND 6 PTA-COMBINE WINNERS WITH TWO HENS. HIS BABIES FLY FROM 300KM TO 800KM AND STILL WIN THE COMBINE, SOME PERFORMANCE OF HIS BABIES.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	dewittt006gmail-com	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
13th June 2025 12:10	.LOT 3 FATHERSDAY AUCTION – ZA VSL 24 1011 BRED BY MELT VAN SCHOOR-3RD ACE SAIPR SUMMER FINAL 2025. ————-SIRE:0243 ZA 22 ” SMEG ” Colou DCP MELT’S BEST KITTEL SIRE OF 3RD OVERALL ACE SAIPR SUMMER 2025. LINE BRED TO BEST KITTEL.MOTHER IS FULL SISTER OF JUNIOR BEST KITTEL SIRE MELT BEST KITTEL BRED OUT OF BEST KITTEL AND THE BEST OF VAN DEN BULCK. THE DAM IS A SPECIAL BREEDING.————–DAM:58 ZA VSL 23 ” LILY ” Colou BB GANUS FAMILY GRD DTR OF ( ORNAT S ) ONE OF THE BEST BEREEDING SONS OF ORNAT&SORAIA DTR OF INCREDABLE DREEAM 2ND ACE VIC FALLS AND 6TH IN THE FINAL. 58 VSL 23: 11TH ON A HARD FINAL RACE SAIPIR 3RD PLACE CHALLANGE.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	koos-van-stapel	R5,000	Current bid: R5,000
13th June 2025 9:03	.LOT 3 FERDIE COETZER – ZA 25 TURFPET 962 – is a medium to small hen with a perfect body . Superb hen . She is bred from my top producing Best Kittel pair namely ” Best Kittel 606 ” and ” Best Kittel 1523 ” . This pretty hen has all the trademark features of the Best Kittel family , exceptional muscles and some foxy looking feather legs cateracting down to her toe nails . Three times linebred to Best Kittel . My summation of these Best Kittels are : super cross material , resilliant , performing over all distances and velocities pigeons .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	agh-pigeons	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
13th June 2025 8:48	.LOT 4 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 25 EC DRPC 33 -SIRE:NL 22-8483879.SIRE IS NL 13-1308132 GOLDEN BOY Gebr. Scheele COCK ALGARVE PAIR (gr) father to a.0 1st Semi-Final Race 4794 pigeons Algarve Pigeons Golden Race 2021.———DAM:NLD 22-8421187.100% W.A.de BRUIJN. SIRE AND DAM ARE PURE BRED W.A.de BRUIJN.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	gertswart	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
13th June 2025 8:44	.LOT 6 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 24 DIAS 238 -SIRE:BE20-4157384.HBRTH QUATRO PORSCHE 384.SIRE IS DIRECT SON OF “NEW PATRICIA” ONE OF THE BASIC BREEDER HENS OF PIPA ELITE CENTRE.———-DAM:NL 22-8124464.Derksen v/d Keuken. Blue .DIRECT DAUGHTER TO “MAYLA”.Halfsister of Mayla:.2e Nat. Cat. Long Fci, 2e Nat. Cat.Allr Fci ,2e Cat.Allr. Comp. .De Allerbeste. 3e World Best Pigeon Allround 2022.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	gertswart	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
13th June 2025 8:42	.LOT 5 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 25 OP 8328 -HALF SIBLING TO BARZALONA RACE WINNER WINNING R200 000.00 ,,,—-SIRE: 507774 DV 20 WONDERBOY JNR. Alfons Klaas First year racing his babies –FATHER OF:— 3270/22: 1. Dinokeng Barzalona Hanover 724km 1488mpm 3285/22: 15. Diaz Race 4 440km Vel:1127mpm.————-DAM:ZA20 MOUN 1115 “DARK NIGHT” PURE BRED ALFONS KLAAS ZA20 MOUN 1115 “DARK NIGHT” SIRE: DV18 0507 316 “TWO ONIONS” GSIRE: “NICO” DV13 0507 402 BROTHER TO ALFOSO JNR 16TH FINAL SAMDPR 2014 600KM WAS SOLD FOR EURO 9600 4TH GRAND AVERAGES AGAINST 5858 PIGEONS 2013 HIS HALF SISTER BRED ”STINA”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	gertswart	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
13th June 2025 8:42	.LOT 9 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 24 OP 10726 -HALF SIBLING TO BARZALONA RACE WINNER WINNING R200 000.00 ,,,—-SIRE: 507774 DV 20 WONDERBOY JNR. Alfons Klaas First year racing his babies –FATHER OF:— 3270/22: 1. Dinokeng Barzalona Hanover 724km 1488mpm 3285/22: 15. Diaz Race 4 440km Vel:1127mpm.————-DAM:ZA20 MOUN 1115 “DARK NIGHT” PURE BRED ALFONS KLAAS ZA20 MOUN 1115 “DARK NIGHT” SIRE: DV18 0507 316 “TWO ONIONS” GSIRE: “NICO” DV13 0507 402 BROTHER TO ALFOSO JNR 16TH FINAL SAMDPR 2014 600KM WAS SOLD FOR EURO 9600 4TH GRAND AVERAGES AGAINST 5858 PIGEONS 2013 HIS HALF SISTER BRED ”STINA”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	gertswart	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
13th June 2025 8:40	.LOT 7 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 25 OP 8326 -SIRE:PRPC 18 ZA 85039.JANSEN/HARDY KRUGER.THIS IS A FULLBROTHER TO THE DAM OF THE CARNIVAL WINNER WHICH WERE SOLD FOR R63 000.00———FULL BROTHER TO DINOKENG LOFTS KNOCKOUT WINNER. Samebred to VIC FALLS HOTSPOT WINNER and ENDURO ACE PIGEON and ALSO 2nd paid pigeon on ENDURO ACE FINAL———DAM:07274-20-409 W.HARDY KRUGER.SIRE IS AN Oustanding Breeder Father to New Carl Lewis –DV07274-18-214– 2020:12/12 Prizes 956 AsP. 1.Ace-Pigeon RV Mittelerft 2.Ace-Pigeon Rheinland 2.Chalon 285km 383 P. 2.Arcis Aube 334 km 340 P. 3.Vouziers 232 km 367 P. 3.Auxerre 424 km 284 P. 3.Auxerre 424 km 226 P. 11.Auxerre 424 km 322 P. 12.Blois 546 km 321 P. 13.Troyes 359 km 344 P. Father from Sellaomi 113.Place in Final 2531b.SAMDPR18/19 Win 9000 Dollar in Nomination 18.Grand Average Bird 1. Place TF (10) 2521 b.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
13th June 2025 8:39	.LOT 1 NORMAN PHILLIPS – ZA 24 DIAS 258 -SIRE:BE20-4157384.HBRTH QUATRO PORSCHE 384.SIRE IS DIRECT SON OF “NEW PATRICIA” ONE OF THE BASIC BREEDER HENS OF PIPA ELITE CENTRE.———-DAM:NL 22-8124464.Derksen v/d Keuken. Blue .DIRECT DAUGHTER TO “MAYLA”.Halfsister of Mayla:.2e Nat. Cat. Long Fci, 2e Nat. Cat.Allr Fci ,2e Cat.Allr. Comp. .De Allerbeste. 3e World Best Pigeon Allround 2022.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	gertswart	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
12th June 2025 19:13	.LOT 5 FATHERSDAY AUCTION – ZA GPU 8778 2022 “JET DYNASTY” CHECK COCK. 2023 2nd Matjiesfontein Challenge winning R50 000.00 – big money race winner winning R31500.00 37th PA Final;——Sire: 2796 ZA TRPF 19. Bred out of Pauls Smith’s Click pair.Multiple Million Dollar top racers also winning Team Competition————-Dam: 0262 PL 13743 20 . “Greg Rockets” 39th Cape Town OLR Final 480km. Were bought for R21 500.00 . This hen is a direct grand daughter of the famous “JONGE KONG” .Multiple One Loft winners GREG TEAM POLAND. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	pigeon-power	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
12th June 2025 18:40	LOT 23 DANIE SCHOLTZ / JACO FAUL – ZA 15 NWPFK 4797 -Half sister super hen “Golden TT”. Dam to SANPO gold medal winner and Mirage of J & M King etc. This was a super racing hen. Her very first baby won & was the best yearling. 4797/15 bred a equal winner on the drop at Hot Spot 4 race, Dinokeng in 2019 for Danie Scholtz. Four birds landed together, on the drop. Also a 13th place in Hot Spot 1 race, Dinokeng in 2019. Was 15th Ace pigeon overall at Dinoken 2019.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	andrebrand72gmail-com	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
12th June 2025 18:37	LOT 20 FATHERSDAY AUCTION – ZA-23-NRHU-4066 -SIRE:BE 19 6108979. STEFAAN LAMBRECHT. BRED FOR STOCK AND BOUGHT FROM PIPA.————DAM:ZA 21 NRHU 0069. HER SIRE IS BRED FROM BEST KITTEL MATED TO HIS OWN DAUGHTER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	yoken	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
12th June 2025 18:36	.LOT 6 FATHERSDAY AUCTION – ZA 22 BOTHA LOFTS 136 -SIRE: 06508 ZA 15. DU PREEZ / DEETLEFS.FULL BROTHER TO 4 X COMBINE WINNER OF DU PREEZ / DEETLEFS.——–DAM:10104 ZA PRPC 19. BRED FROM FULL BROTHER 4 X COMBINE WINNER AND ACE PIGEON OF SU PREEZ & DEETLEFS.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	yoken	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
12th June 2025 14:01	LOT 21 FATHERSDAY AUCTION – ZA 22 VPU 9585 -SUPER CLASS! Linebbred 5 x times to SUPERBREEDER 810 by using some of his best breeder children. Linebred to THREE of the best 810×8855 sons “17691” “4161” and “15026”. Niece to ZA VPU 9428/22″ KALAHARI SANDS” – SOLD FOR R63 000. 1st Dinokeng Final Race Winner of R120 000, Hanover, 724km, vel 1502. 3 Birds on the drop. 2nd Ace Dinokeng 2023 – Winner of R80 000. & 35th Barzalona Car Race, Hanover, 724km, vel 1443.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	zwarts	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000

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LOT 12 CRAZY R500 AUCTION – ZA 23 GRPF 1555 -SIRE:8106 GRPF 20 . HERBOTS.———-DAM:4171 GRPF . SISTER OF GOLD MEDAL WINNER RICHMOND.SEE PEDIGREE!!!

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LOT 33 CRAZY R500 AUCTION -ZA 23 BORD 924 – KEI LOFTS -SIRE:ZA 21 BORD 3714 . PUTTERIE BLOODLINES.———DAM:ZA 19 BORD 5043 . SUPERCRACK/VAN LOON. HALF SISTER TO MIA WINNER OF THE FINAL RACE AND CAR WINNER DIAZ 2018.SEE PEDIGREE!!!

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