LOT 20 RADFORD & VISSER -ZA 23 TRPF 17691 -Double Daniel National Ace x Double Kittel National Ace . Dam halfbrother x halfsister back to Melt’s Best Kittel , one of Best Kittel super breeding sons hand selected at PIPA Elite Centrum . Best Kittel Royalty .SEE PEDIGREE!!!

Name: LOT 20 RADFORD &amp; VISSER -ZA 23 TRPF 17691 -Double Daniel National Ace x Double Kittel National Ace . Dam halfbrother x halfsister back to Melt's Best Kittel , one of Best Kittel super breeding sons hand selected at PIPA Elite Centrum . Best Kittel Royalty .SEE PEDIGREE!!!
SKU: 53486
Availability: InStock

Winning Bid: R5,000

Item condition: New

Category: ACTIVE AUCTION - RADFORD & VISSER - FROM 12 FEBRUARY TO SUNDAY 16 FEBRUARY 2025 (ENDING FROM 16:10)

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Highest bidder was: Oscar

Date	Bid	User	Auto
16th February 2025 8:10	R5,000	Oscar
11th February 2025 16:13	Auction started

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Date	Auction	Username	Bid	Status
5th July 2026 14:03	.LOT 4 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 25 CRU 4041 -SIRE:596 BOTHAS 24. SIRE WERE SOLD FOR R36000.00 AND DAM WERE SOLD FOR R109 000.00. DAM IS BRED FROM SIRE TO TURBO KITTEL MATED TO GRANDMOTHER TO “BLUE MOON” DINOKENG ACE BIRD AND FINAL RACE WINNER AND WERE SOLD FOR R400 000.00———–DAM:593 BOTHAS 24. DAM IS 5 X TIMES WINNER IF ENTERED AT SANPO MEDALS SILVER OVERALL – BEST BIRD SHORT DISTANCE UNION – 2ND BEST BIRD UNION – 2ND BEST BIRD YEARLING – SUPER RACER – 1 X 2ND – 2 X 3RD – 1 X 4TH .SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	huyser	R4,000	Current bid: R4,000
5th July 2026 14:00	LOT 19 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 -ZA 25 CRU 4151 -SIRE:585 BOTHAS 24. SIRE IS 813 – SOLD FOR R92,000.00 .SIRE IS FULL BROTHER TO SIRE “TURBO KITTEL” . THE FATHER OF 813 & THE FATHER OF 18-90692 IS BROTHERS – 4790 IS THE MOTHER OF 813, 862 & 90692 – 90692 IS FATHER OF TURBO KITTEL – 14-08702 THE G/FATHER OF BLUE MOON————DAM:590 BOTHAS 24. DAM IS 312 – SOLD FOR R29,500.00. PURE KITTEL BRED BY ALWYN BESTER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	kleinberg	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000
5th July 2026 13:59	LOT 12 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 25 CRU 4135 -SIRE:595 BOTHAS 24.BOTHA LOFTS. BRED FROM BROTHER AND SISTER MATING. RELATED TO WINNERS/COMBINE WINNERS/ACE PIGEONS.———-DAM:3108147 BE 24. MEAL SIRE SOLD FOR R101 500.00 AND SISTER BRED 8X SANPO MEDAL WINNER SISTER ABL -20 167 – BRED 14 WINNERS SISTER ABL -20 168 – BRED 7 WINNERS,SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	kleinberg	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000
5th July 2026 13:58	.LOT 4 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 25 CRU 4041 -SIRE:596 BOTHAS 24. SIRE WERE SOLD FOR R36000.00 AND DAM WERE SOLD FOR R109 000.00. DAM IS BRED FROM SIRE TO TURBO KITTEL MATED TO GRANDMOTHER TO “BLUE MOON” DINOKENG ACE BIRD AND FINAL RACE WINNER AND WERE SOLD FOR R400 000.00———–DAM:593 BOTHAS 24. DAM IS 5 X TIMES WINNER IF ENTERED AT SANPO MEDALS SILVER OVERALL – BEST BIRD SHORT DISTANCE UNION – 2ND BEST BIRD UNION – 2ND BEST BIRD YEARLING – SUPER RACER – 1 X 2ND – 2 X 3RD – 1 X 4TH .SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	kleinberg	R3,500	Current bid: R4,000
5th July 2026 13:58	.LOT 2 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 25 CRU 4115 -SIRE:587 BOTHAS 24.SIRE IS 1137 – SOLD FOR R108,500.00 WINNER – 2 X DUAL WINNER – 2 X 2ND TO TEAM MATES -23. SCORED 9 X FIRST 15 IN CLUB -23. BEST MIDDEL DISTANCE BIRD -23. SCORED 11 X CLUB -23. 1137 IS DIRECT CHILD TO 8 X SANPO MEDAL WINNER “TURBO KITTEL”.————-DAM:1502 ZA CRU 21.BRED FOR STOCK. THIS IS BRED OUT OF “HOPE” . “HOPE HAS WON THE BAKKIE RACE DINOKENG 2020.SEE PEDIGREE!!	kleinberg	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000
5th July 2026 13:56	.LOT 8 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 16 TRPF 18642 -SUPERIOR L/DIST. RACER AND BREEDER. BRED 2X SANPO SILVER L/DIST. BRED UNION WINNER 2314/20. 17′, 1ST L/DIST BIRD UNION, 2ND COMB.; 4 RICHMOND, 14 CRADOCK;16 CRADOCK; 22 LEEU-GAMKA; 29 COLESBERG. BRED 2314/20 2X SANPO SILVER L/DIST. FULL BROTHER TO ZA 08226/15 “17: 1’2YO; 3’OVERALL; 3’OPEN, 4’S/DIST.————-SIRE:01594 PWF 14. BREDA VAN SCHOORSIRE TO ZA 08226/15, PWDC: 3’2YO; 2’OVERALL; 2’OPEN, 3’S/DIST. 2ND GPC 7982B BLOEM, 5X TOP 30 COMBINE AND 2ND GPC; AND ZA 18642/16, 1ST L/DIST UNION 2ND PWDC; 4, 14,16 & 22 COMBINE IN SUCCESSION ON L/DIST AS YEAR OLD.————-DAM:04705 PWF 14 BB BREDA VAN SCHOOR DAM TO ZA 08226/15, PWDC: 3’2YO; 2’OVERALL; 2’OPEN, 3’S/DIST. 2ND GPC 7982B BLOEM, 5X TOP 30 COMBINE AND 2ND GPC; AND ZA 18642/16, 1ST L/DIST BIRD UNION, 2ND PWDC; 4, 14,16 & 22 COMBINE IN SUCCESSION ON L/DIST AS YEAR OLD. BRED 850/23 2ND UNION MIDDELBURG. 405/24, BEAUFORT WES UNION WINNER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	ragnar	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000
5th July 2026 13:52	LOT 43 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 18 91128 -FROM THE FOUNDATION LINES OF BOTHA LOFT. F/SIS TO 2316/20 CRADOCK UNION WINNER BY 22MIN, 772KM, 1029 AND 357/24 3RD UNION BLOEMFONTEIN X3-3. G/DAM AND SIRE SOLD FOR R250 000.————SIRE:11580 ZA 16. BOTHA LOFTS.SUPER BREEDER & RACER. CLICK PAIR SOLD FOR R250K. 1ST BLOEMFONTEIN ;2ND TROMPSBURG ;7TH WINBURG; 14TH BLOEMFONTEIN, 12TH WINBURG IN CLUB. BRED 2316/20 CRADOCK UNION WINNER BY 22MIN, 772KM, 1029 VEL. FULL BROTHER TO OUR BEST RACER 08223/15. F/BRO 11581/16 BRED 1313/22. BRED 357/24 3RD UNION————DAM:00696 ZA 15 BB DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS EXCELLENT BREEDER. BRED SEVERAL WINNERS INCLUDING 2316/20 CRADOCK UNION WINNER BY 22MIN, 772KM, 1029 VEL. BRED 357/24 3RD UNION BLOEMFONTEIN X3-3.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	leonvv	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
5th July 2026 13:50	.LOT 4 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 25 CRU 4041 -SIRE:596 BOTHAS 24. SIRE WERE SOLD FOR R36000.00 AND DAM WERE SOLD FOR R109 000.00. DAM IS BRED FROM SIRE TO TURBO KITTEL MATED TO GRANDMOTHER TO “BLUE MOON” DINOKENG ACE BIRD AND FINAL RACE WINNER AND WERE SOLD FOR R400 000.00———–DAM:593 BOTHAS 24. DAM IS 5 X TIMES WINNER IF ENTERED AT SANPO MEDALS SILVER OVERALL – BEST BIRD SHORT DISTANCE UNION – 2ND BEST BIRD UNION – 2ND BEST BIRD YEARLING – SUPER RACER – 1 X 2ND – 2 X 3RD – 1 X 4TH .SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	huyser	R3,000	Current bid: R4,000
5th July 2026 13:47	LOT 74 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 25 CRU DERBY 3149 -SIRE:893 J&B 24. BRED FROM SUPER WINNING GENETICS OF DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS.————DAM:9207 PWDU 20.ALWYN BESTER. BRED FROM 63384 GB 18.G/F TO ZA PWDU 9849/20, 3RD WORLD ALL ROUND BEST BIRD AND 6X SANPO GOLD MEDAL WINNER 2021. G/F TO ZA PWDU 9060/20 2ND BEST MIDDLE DISTANCE PWDU.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	spieks	R3,500	Current bid: R3,500
5th July 2026 13:02	.LOT 3 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 22 BOTHA LOFTS 56 -SUPER LONG DISTANCE RACER! 2ND UNION THREE SISTERS AND 2ND BIRD FOR BOTHA LOFT. F/SIS 55/22 MIDDELBURG 1 UNION WINNER WITH 24 MINUTES. BRED DINOKENG BAR-ZA-LONA EQUAL FIRST.———–SIRE:9422 PRPC 19.BOTHA LOFT.SUPER BIRD! 2 UNION WINBURG; 2 UNION SPRINGFONTEIN. NEST MATE 9419/19, BLOEMFONTEIN 1, WINNER, 3 BEST OPEN BIRD, 4 OVERALL PWDU AND BRED 3RD MARLBANK FINAL – WON R100K. BRED BOTHA 44/23, WON ALL 4 PWDU BABY RACES. 3 WINBURG, 8 HANOVER AND 10 SMITHFIELD. 55/22 BRED BAR-ZA-LONA EQUAL 1ST. ————-DAM:411 ABL 21 RED ALWYN BESTER BOUGHT FOR STOCK FROM ALWYN BESTER. BRED BOTHA 44/23, WON ALL x4 PWDU BABY RACES. 3RD WINBURG, 8TH HANOVER AND 10TH SMITHFIELD. 55/22, UNION WINNER MIDDELBURG BY 24MIN, 2ND UNION THREE SISTERS. 129/23 UNION WINNER MIDDELBURG. 36/23 UNION WINNER THREE SISTERS. 312/24 2ND UNION NOUPOORT.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	bakkies	R17,000	Current bid: R17,500
5th July 2026 13:02	.LOT 3 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 22 BOTHA LOFTS 56 -SUPER LONG DISTANCE RACER! 2ND UNION THREE SISTERS AND 2ND BIRD FOR BOTHA LOFT. F/SIS 55/22 MIDDELBURG 1 UNION WINNER WITH 24 MINUTES. BRED DINOKENG BAR-ZA-LONA EQUAL FIRST.———–SIRE:9422 PRPC 19.BOTHA LOFT.SUPER BIRD! 2 UNION WINBURG; 2 UNION SPRINGFONTEIN. NEST MATE 9419/19, BLOEMFONTEIN 1, WINNER, 3 BEST OPEN BIRD, 4 OVERALL PWDU AND BRED 3RD MARLBANK FINAL – WON R100K. BRED BOTHA 44/23, WON ALL 4 PWDU BABY RACES. 3 WINBURG, 8 HANOVER AND 10 SMITHFIELD. 55/22 BRED BAR-ZA-LONA EQUAL 1ST. ————-DAM:411 ABL 21 RED ALWYN BESTER BOUGHT FOR STOCK FROM ALWYN BESTER. BRED BOTHA 44/23, WON ALL x4 PWDU BABY RACES. 3RD WINBURG, 8TH HANOVER AND 10TH SMITHFIELD. 55/22, UNION WINNER MIDDELBURG BY 24MIN, 2ND UNION THREE SISTERS. 129/23 UNION WINNER MIDDELBURG. 36/23 UNION WINNER THREE SISTERS. 312/24 2ND UNION NOUPOORT.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	aneeskathrada	R17,500	Current bid: R17,500
5th July 2026 13:02	LOT 43 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 18 91128 -FROM THE FOUNDATION LINES OF BOTHA LOFT. F/SIS TO 2316/20 CRADOCK UNION WINNER BY 22MIN, 772KM, 1029 AND 357/24 3RD UNION BLOEMFONTEIN X3-3. G/DAM AND SIRE SOLD FOR R250 000.————SIRE:11580 ZA 16. BOTHA LOFTS.SUPER BREEDER & RACER. CLICK PAIR SOLD FOR R250K. 1ST BLOEMFONTEIN ;2ND TROMPSBURG ;7TH WINBURG; 14TH BLOEMFONTEIN, 12TH WINBURG IN CLUB. BRED 2316/20 CRADOCK UNION WINNER BY 22MIN, 772KM, 1029 VEL. FULL BROTHER TO OUR BEST RACER 08223/15. F/BRO 11581/16 BRED 1313/22. BRED 357/24 3RD UNION————DAM:00696 ZA 15 BB DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS EXCELLENT BREEDER. BRED SEVERAL WINNERS INCLUDING 2316/20 CRADOCK UNION WINNER BY 22MIN, 772KM, 1029 VEL. BRED 357/24 3RD UNION BLOEMFONTEIN X3-3.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	meyer19921022outlook-com	R2,000	Current bid: R2,500
5th July 2026 12:25	LOT 66 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 20 PWDU 2308 – SIRE:22377 SA 08.BLOEM COCK. ALWYN BESTER.BRED SEVERAL WINNERS FOR BOTHA LOFTS. BRED SEVERAL WINNERS FOR ALWYN BESTER. 08671/14, 08672/14 AND 09959/13 FLY EXCEPTIONAL 2014-15. 2011 HIS CHILDREN DOMINATES THE PRETORIA UNION AS WELL AS COMBINE FOR FOX VAN ONSELEN AND KOBUS REYNDERS.———–DAM:27184 ZA 12 BLOEM HEN BB KOBUS REYNDERS EXCELLENT BREEDER FOR BOTHA LOFTS. BRED BY KOBUS REYNDERS – NO PEDIGREE.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	sparksaxsel	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000
5th July 2026 12:20	LOT 28 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 16 02456 -SIRE:25109 SA 11.TRIPPLE WINNER COCK.HE IS A 3 X WINNER. BRED WINNERS.————–DAM:14103 SA 09 RETURN HEN CHP TOURNIER/CATRYS/VEERPOO T HERMANS CONSISTANT RACER. BRED EXCELLENT BIRDS OF WHICH A WINNER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	sparksaxsel	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
5th July 2026 12:17	LOT 23 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 24 BDUD 1416 -SAME SIRE AS 1103 4TH BLUE JACKET AFTER RACE 8 AFRIKAPRO 2024———-SIRE:4861 ZA 22. CRACK AELBRECHT.Stunnning breeding cock, great handler. First year in breeding loft achieved the following at AfrikaPro 2024: RACE 6 – 14th Ace, 330km vs 2155p RACE 7 – 15th Ace, 383km vs 1963p RACE 8 – 4th Ace, 430km .———DAM:704 NRHU 19 CH Hardy Kruger Bred for stock. Highlights of sibling breeding/race performance: Sister achieved-11th FBHU/WCPTA Combine 770km vs 6720p Full brother bred 55th AfrikaPro 2024 final (86/1728p clocked on the day).SEE PEDIGREE!!!	sparksaxsel	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
5th July 2026 12:16	LOT 16 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 23 BOTHA LOFTS 79 -INBRED BLOEM COCK BRED FOR STOCK———-SIRE:1244 CRU 21. BOTHA LOFTS. BRED DIRECTLY OUT OF “BLOEM PAIR”.———–DAM1227 CRU 21 BB BOTHA LOFT. BRED DIRECTLY OUT OF “BLOEM PAIR”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	sparksaxsel	R3,500	Current bid: R3,500
5th July 2026 12:08	LOT 34 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 18 82529 -7X TOP 23 PWDC. UNION WINNER. 2ND YB AND 7TH OVERALL PWDC ’19. 1ST OVERALL 1ST YB POINTS+COEF. 1ST SHORT, 2ND MIDDLE COEF. CRUSADERS. 1 COLESBERG, 6 BLOEMFONTEIN, 14 SMITHFIELD, 15 SPRINGFONTEIN, 22 COLESBERG, 22 WINBURG, 23 DEWETSDORP PWDC 19′. HALF/B DINOKENG19′ BLOEMFONTEIN 1ST.————-SIRE:10526 ZA 16. DEAN JOOSTE.DEAN JOOSTE “EGGS” GIFT. EXCELLENT BREEDER. BRED 82529/18. UNION WINNER. 7X TOP 23 PWDC. 2ND YB PWDC ’19. 1ST OVERALL 1ST YB POINTS & COEF. 1ST SHORT, 2ND MIDDLE COEF. CRUSADERS. BRED “MINDY” BOTHA 70/22, 4TH DINOKENG BAR-ZA-LONA (EQUAL 1ST) AND 3RD BIG MONEY RACE. WON R70 000.1240/21 UNION WINNER,———–DAM:06616 ZA 15 BCP Du Preez&Deetlefs BOUGHT FROM DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS. BRED “FURIOUS”, 2019 DINOKENG, BLOEMFONTEIN 1 WINNER. BRED 82529/18 UNION WINNER,1ST OVERALL POINTS AND COEF., 1ST YB POINTS AND COEF., 1ST SHORT COEF., 2ND MIDDLE COEF. IN CRUSADERS. 2ND YB 19′ PWDC. 24509/17 VILLIERIA 18′ BS WINNER R45K. 1240/21 UNION WINNER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	am	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
5th July 2026 11:54	LOT 14 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 24 CRU 2227 -SIRE:10526 ZA 16.DEAN JOOSTE.DEAN JOOSTE “EGGS” GIFT. EXCELLENT BREEDER. BRED 82529/18. UNION WINNER. 7X TOP 23 PWDC. 2ND YB PWDC ’19. 1ST OVERALL 1ST YB POINTS & COEF. 1ST SHORT, 2ND MIDDLE COEF. CRUSADERS. BRED “MINDY” BOTHA 70/22, 4TH DINOKENG BAR-ZA-LONA (EQUAL 1ST) AND 3RD BIG MONEY RACE. WON R70 000.1240/21 UNION WINNER,————-DAM:06616 ZA 15 BCP Du Preez&Deetlefs BOUGHT FROM DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS. BRED “FURIOUS”, 2019 DINOKENG, BLOEMFONTEIN 1 WINNER. BRED 82529/18 UNION WINNER,1ST OVERALL POINTS AND COEF., 1ST YB POINTS AND COEF., 1ST SHORT COEF., 2ND MIDDLE COEF. IN CRUSADERS. 2ND YB 19′ PWDC. 24509/17 VILLIERIA 18′ BS WINNER R45K. 1240/21 UNION WINNER, 2X 2.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	bradburylofts	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
5th July 2026 11:52	LOT 23 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 – ZA 24 BDUD 1416 -SAME SIRE AS 1103 4TH BLUE JACKET AFTER RACE 8 AFRIKAPRO 2024———-SIRE:4861 ZA 22. CRACK AELBRECHT.Stunnning breeding cock, great handler. First year in breeding loft achieved the following at AfrikaPro 2024: RACE 6 – 14th Ace, 330km vs 2155p RACE 7 – 15th Ace, 383km vs 1963p RACE 8 – 4th Ace, 430km .———DAM:704 NRHU 19 CH Hardy Kruger Bred for stock. Highlights of sibling breeding/race performance: Sister achieved-11th FBHU/WCPTA Combine 770km vs 6720p Full brother bred 55th AfrikaPro 2024 final (86/1728p clocked on the day).SEE PEDIGREE!!!	bennie	R1,500	Current bid: R2,000
5th July 2026 11:46	LOT 17 BOTHA LOFTS AUCTION 2 -ZA 21 ABL 326 -BRED 4050/25 CRUD 25, 1ST CLUB WINNER, AND 2ND UNION REDDERSBURG.———–SIRE : ZA 18 90696 . THIS COCK IS AN INBRED TO THE SUPER BREEDING ROODHOOFT HEN. BRED FROM HALF BROTHER TO SISTER MATING. ———–DAM: 1418622 NLD 19. Alias “BULCK 622” Strain: Dirk Van Den Bulck Color: Blue Chequer Pied KATU,half brother to KITTEL mated to ANGELINA, full sister to KITTEL and GOLD DUST. Half sister to KIRA, 3rd National Ace bird Middle Distance “De Allerbeste” 2017 1st Epernay 1178 pigeons 1st Vervins 1053 pigeons 6th Nanteuil 10168 pigeons 6th TELETEKST 4998 pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	luc	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000

LOT 20 RADFORD & VISSER -ZA 23 TRPF 17691 -Double Daniel National Ace x Double Kittel National Ace . Dam halfbrother x halfsister back to Melt’s Best Kittel , one of Best Kittel super breeding sons hand selected at PIPA Elite Centrum . Best Kittel Royalty .SEE PEDIGREE!!!

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LOT 15 RADFORD & VISSER -ZA 16 TRPF 15408 -SIRE:1331 DV 13 0507. DIRECT FROM ALFONS KLAAS.———DAM:1292 0507 12 DV. ALFONS KLAAS. DIRECT CHILD OF “DER ALFONSO”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!

LOT 24 RADFORD & VISSER -ZA 23 PTAO 835 -SIRE:785 ZA 20 RADR . DAM IS Inbred back to KITTEL and his famous parents. GOEDE RODE and OLYMPIC ROSITA are the foundation birds from the Dirk van den Bulck dynasty..————–DAM: 17691 TRPF 23 ZA. KITTEL X BEST KITTEL.SEE PEDIGREE!!!

.LOT 2 RADFORD & VISSER -ZA 23 121832 -SIRE:1182 ZA 23 ABL. KITTEL. SAME BRED SOLD FOR R25 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON.————DAM: 1177 ZA 23 ABL. KITTEL. THIS IS A DOUBLE GRANDCHILD TO THE OLYMPIC PAIR.SEE PEDIGREE!!!