LOT 11 KAROO MILLION SPECIALIST – ZA 23 CAS 117 – GAVIN ROUS -SIRE: 116 14. THIS IS A DOUBLE GRANDSON DIRECTLY FROM THE FAMOUS “CAR HEN”.————–DAM:06569 ZA 17 TRPF. GANUS. BRED FROM A INBRED OSWALD.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

Name: LOT 11 KAROO MILLION SPECIALIST - ZA 23 CAS 117 - GAVIN ROUS -SIRE: 116 14. THIS IS A DOUBLE GRANDSON DIRECTLY FROM THE FAMOUS "CAR HEN".--------------DAM:06569 ZA 17 TRPF. GANUS. BRED FROM A INBRED OSWALD.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
SKU: 44350
Availability: InStock

Winning Bid: R1,000

Item condition: New

Category: ACTIVE AUCTION - KAROO MILLION SPECIALIST - FROM 20 AUGUST TO SUNDAY 25 AUGUST 2024 (ENDS FROM 13:00)

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Date	Bid	User	Auto
21st August 2024 17:00	R1,000	Speedie lofts
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21st October 2026 19:16	ZZ..LOT 153 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 1-JJJ Van Der Linde-ZA-25-BPFD-4073 -SIRE: 1001 ZA 23 — “KING PORSCHE” Pencil Blue Bar cock from the PIPA Elite Center Porsche family. Bred from 36348 ZA 22 “Porsche 348” and 651307 RO 19 ZA “Lieve Porsche”, combining the lines of Porsche 911, Porsche 679, Destiny Porsche and Porsche 796. His pedigree records 18 top-10 national ace titles in Belgium and nine first national winners within the Porsche family.————– DAM: 3006 BPF/D 22 ZA Blue Bar hen bred by JJJ van der Linde, linebred to 1110 SVPV 16 “Rocky (JBM)”, a foundation breeder for the loft. Bred from 0371 BPF/D 18, a first Federation winner over 700 km in 2022, and 964 BPF 21, whose pedigree records a five-time-winning full sister and a Bloemfontein Federation Combine-winning full sister. Her pedigree combines Tom Lock/Sablon bloodlines with the Rocky and Zena lines, including SANPO Bronze and Gold Medal ancestry.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	silverbacks	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
21st October 2026 18:55	.LOT 5 KAROO MILION R500 BARGAIN BOX -HOLLAS HOKKE-246 GHT 2025 -SIRE: NL 19 1695579 “PANCHO JNR” Outstanding blue-bar Chris Hebberecht × Braad-De Joo cock. 7th Hotspot 3 at SAMDPR 2019/2020, with several excellent training-flight positions against up to 2,864 pigeons. In his first season at stock, paired to KT19-944173, he bred a Union winner. A son of “Pancho Man,” grandson of the famous “Pancho” and half-brother to “Champion.” His dam, “Emilia,” achieved 9th Ace Long Distance WBZH 2015, 1st Vierzon against 3,616 pigeons and 3rd Bourges against 3,209 pigeons. A powerful combination of proven long-distance racing and breeding genetics.————-DAM: 01654-24 DV 876 “ESTHER” Blue hen from the respected Robert Van Veen and Klaus Stieneker GeHammert–Kannibal family. “Esther” competed at the Afrika Pro One Loft Race and represents a strong, proven German distance family. Her pedigree contains top breeders including “Bruder Mr Bolt,” “Carlos Jr,” “Carlos,” “Daisy,” “Tochter Moses,” “Moses,” “Miss Kannibal,” “Martin der Wringe” and the Leysen Van Dyck bloodline. A valuable breeding hen carrying generations of established performance genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	toni-dossantos65gmail-com	R1,250	Current bid: R1,250
21st October 2026 18:54	ZZ..LOT 138 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 1-OOA & Len Knoetze Lofts-ZA-25-GRPF-0476 -SIRE: ZA 22 ABL 883 — “MEALY TURBO KITTEL 883” A red chequer cock bred from Alwyn Bester’s Super Sprint 26 and Dirk Van Den Bulck bloodlines. He is a son of “Di Caprio 11” and NLD 19 1418637, combining the Dynasty Kittel, Kittel Bolt and Olympic Rosita family lines. Sire to ZA VPU 4265/25, 5th in the SAIPR Winter 2026 final, and ZA OOA 337/25, equal 1st on the drop and 4th at SAIPR Summer Hot Spot 3 over 288 km, winning R10,000.————— DAM: ZA 20 326066 — “SIMPLY THE BEST – 2 X WIN” A blue bar white-flight hen from the Out of Africa Aces family. A two-time winner with Union positions including 1st, 3rd, 3rd and 8th. She achieved 2nd Overall VPU Ace Pigeon in 2020 and 6th Overall VPU Ace Pigeon in 2021, scoring ten times that season. Bred from “Sire Freds Super Pair 2” and “Dam Freds Super Pair 2,” she combines Golden Carelly Ace and Superbreeder 810 bloodlines. A full sister to several Ace pigeons and described in the pedigree as a breeder of Aces.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	silverbacks	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
21st October 2026 18:52	LOT 10 KAROO MILION R500 BARGAIN BOX -MEGA PIGEON-083 KAROO MILLION 2025 -SIRE: BONTEBОК 082 ZA 24. CATRYSSE.————-DAM:DAM: BONTEВОК 059 ZA 24.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	toni-dossantos65gmail-com	R500	Current bid: R500
21st October 2026 18:50	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	jamkar	R27,500	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 18:50	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wonderfull	R28,000	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 18:48	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	robert12345gmail-com	R26,500	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 18:48	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wonderfull	R27,000	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 18:47	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wonderfull	R24,500	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 18:47	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	robert12345gmail-com	R24,000	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 18:01	LOT 66 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 1-Team Hackfort / Isensee-DV-25-06306-298 -47TH FINAL RACE———-SIRE: DV 4715-23-1336 — Tino Bergemann A grandson of the renowned Hitchcock, combining Rolf Berger and Mark Janssens bloodlines. His sire, DV 6306-22-1539, placed 27th in the Algarve Golden Race Final 2022 over 505 km and was bred from a half-sister to Marple. His dam, Rilys Girl (IR 22-022803), placed 24th in the Algarve Final Race. A pedigree carrying proven one-loft race performance.——————— DAM: DV 6332-23-0463 — “Riachos Queen 2023” Bred by Heiko Sieckmann and credited with 1st in the Toledo Final. She is a daughter of Sprinter 551 (DV 9835-21-0551), bred by Siegfried and Mirko Jäger, and Zucht-Ass (DV 6332-17-0785). Her paternal grandsire, Der Schnelle, earned 1st Ace Pigeon in the RV, with results including 1st over 359 km and 2nd over 305 km. Her pedigree combines final-race success with accomplished sprint ancestry.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	taffy23	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
21st October 2026 17:56	ZZ..LOT 161 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 1-Oudeluck, Baard & Spammer-ZA-25-GPU-2524 -Hyrox combines Blizzard King Kittel, Belgian extreme long-distance and Sioen × Hooymans bloodlines with a family record of one-loft racing success. Results include 3rd over 280 km against 1,676 pigeons and 17th over 330 km against 1,658 pigeons, together with 39th Blue Jacket, 80th Green Jacket and 113th Brown Jacket.——— SIRE — ZA 24 SANP 14062 \| TNT Elite \| Grizzle A son of “Cherry Blossom Blizzard” and “Magic Nina,” combining Blizzard King Kittel bloodlines with Belgian extreme long-distance breeding. Full brother to “Colorado King,” 2nd HS2 SAIPR Summer, sold for R42,000. His nestmate brother, ZA 24 SANP 14061, sired “Tykie,” 2nd Ace Blue Jacket 2026. A pedigree bringing together successful one-loft racing relatives and established endurance lines.——– DAM — ZA 24 SANP 14025 \| TNT Elite \| Blue Bar A daughter of “Indy,” the 2020 Young Bird Series Silver Medal winner and sire of the 3rd Ace Bird SAIPR 2023 and 4th Ace Bird SAIPR 2024—both listed as 1st Ace before the final. She is a granddaughter of “Joko,” best long-distance bird in the federation in 2017. Her dam, BE 16 2299285, adds Sioen × Hooymans breeding through “Spidey Son” and “Copy Harry,” bringing together a family record of racing and breeding achievement.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	namakwalander	R6,500	Current bid: R6,500
21st October 2026 17:52	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gjsudhshsh	R21,500	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 17:52	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wonderfull	R22,000	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 17:52	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wonderfull	R19,000	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 17:52	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gjsudhshsh	R18,500	Current bid: R28,000
21st October 2026 17:46	LOT 12 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 1-Die Painters & SG Ullrich-ZA-25-NDK-1279 -11TH RACE 4 EQUAL WINNER———GRAND PURPOSE is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025, and to “WHAT PURPOSE” – all direct children of “DUAL PURPOSE” and “WHENNY”. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” (581/18), is SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019 and sire to 1st National Ace Pigeon Short Distance 2024 – one of the best pigeons the loft has ever had. Her dam, “WHENNY” (175/21), is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. This is proven championship breeding – the same cross that produced Michelangelo’s Purpose and What Purpose – now racing at Afrikapro ’26.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wonderfull	R25,500	Current bid: R25,500
21st October 2026 17:46	LOT 12 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 1-Die Painters & SG Ullrich-ZA-25-NDK-1279 -11TH RACE 4 EQUAL WINNER———GRAND PURPOSE is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025, and to “WHAT PURPOSE” – all direct children of “DUAL PURPOSE” and “WHENNY”. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” (581/18), is SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019 and sire to 1st National Ace Pigeon Short Distance 2024 – one of the best pigeons the loft has ever had. Her dam, “WHENNY” (175/21), is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. This is proven championship breeding – the same cross that produced Michelangelo’s Purpose and What Purpose – now racing at Afrikapro ’26.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wonderfull	R25,000	Current bid: R25,500
21st October 2026 17:46	LOT 12 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 1-Die Painters & SG Ullrich-ZA-25-NDK-1279 -11TH RACE 4 EQUAL WINNER———GRAND PURPOSE is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025, and to “WHAT PURPOSE” – all direct children of “DUAL PURPOSE” and “WHENNY”. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” (581/18), is SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019 and sire to 1st National Ace Pigeon Short Distance 2024 – one of the best pigeons the loft has ever had. Her dam, “WHENNY” (175/21), is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. This is proven championship breeding – the same cross that produced Michelangelo’s Purpose and What Purpose – now racing at Afrikapro ’26.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R25,000	Current bid: R25,500
21st October 2026 17:36	.LOT 1 DIE PAINTERS – ZA 26 KPU 4546 -“MAP’S FAVORITE” Painter Putterie Cock Dc “MAP’S FAVORITE” is a PERFECT PIGEON!! TBuilt like a trye champion with a throat that ranks in the Top 1% in our loft! Bred directly out of South Africa’s two best ’24/25 performers – “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (1st Afrikapro Final 2025) and “TATJANA” (1st Overall National Ace Pigeon Overall 2024). His father is “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE” (“MAP”), winner of the Afrikapro Final in 2025. He not only won the Final but scored in the Top 100 5 times in the series of 10 races, and was also in the first drop on two more occasions. His mother is “TATJANA”, the best racer the loft has ever owned. She won 5x SANPO Gold Medals including 1st National Ace FCI Class as well as 1st National Ace 500 to 2000 pigeons. She is a 3x Union Winner, Combine Winner and 7x Club Winner. Like his siblings, this cock carries perfect performance genetics, perfect build, perfect throat and perfect wing!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wonderfull	R16,500	Current bid: R28,000

LOT 11 KAROO MILLION SPECIALIST – ZA 23 CAS 117 – GAVIN ROUS -SIRE: 116 14. THIS IS A DOUBLE GRANDSON DIRECTLY FROM THE FAMOUS “CAR HEN”.————–DAM:06569 ZA 17 TRPF. GANUS. BRED FROM A INBRED OSWALD.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

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