.LOT 7 DANIE SCHOLTZ / JACO FAUL – ZA 24 GPU 9243 -Line bred for stock back to GOLDEN CARELLY. Sire, BORSBEEN, superbreeder for J Faul & DJ Scholtz. Linebred back to GOLDEN CARELLY. Dam, SUPER 26, superbreeder for J Faul & DJ Scholtz. Children also breeds winners. Sire is ZA GPU 13771 ’15 DOUBLE CARELLY, Jaco Faul nr 1 CARELLY cock. Half-sister to the sire of TATJANA, ZA CYRIL 1448 ’22 BEST OF CARELLY, super racer for Die Painters in 2024.SEE PEDIGREE!!!

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8th November 2026 11:30	LOT 27 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-TNT Elite Centre-ZA-25-GPU-2577 -Same bred as ZA-23-14993 “ENIGMA”. Absolutley star studded pedigree. 2. AFRIKAPRO Final 2024. 601 km 1092 mpm 37°c (Hardest Race in Afrikapro’s History). 2.Blue Jacket AFRIKAPRO 2024. 1. Brown Jacket AFRIKAPRO 2024. Enigma played a pivotal role in Tnt Elite Centre’s 2nd Black Jacket standings 2024.————–SIRE:ZA 21 DIAS 855. WEBSTER LOFTS. SIRE TO “ENIGMA” 1ST BROWN JACKET , 2ND BLUE JACKET AFRIKAPRO 2024.————DAM:ZA 21 GPU 7455. GRAND DAUGHTER TO FAMOUS “JOKO”. 7455 IS DAM TO “ENIGMA” 1ST BROWN JACKET , 2ND BLUE JACKET AFRIKAPRO 2024.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	lmg	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000
8th November 2026 11:18	LOT 48 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Loft Einkamerer-ZA-25-LOFT EINKAMERER-175 -5TH RACE 9 EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE: ZA 22 0236 “PIZZARO FAVORITE” A blue bar Einkamerer cock combining Jan Hooymans’ celebrated Harry family with Scheele breeding. Bred from NL 16 1663446 “Pizzal”, whose parents are “Brother Harry” and a daughter of “Harry”, paired to NL 13 1395514 “Balloneke”. His pedigree brings together the influential Jonge Bliksem, Dirkje, Superboy and Daughter 666 bloodlines—a strong breeding foundation with depth in internationally recognised racing families.———- DAM: EIN 23 170 “APPLE 2 13811” A blue bar Einkamerer hen bred from SRPV 18 0103 “Black Knight 103” and NL 13 1395456 “Apple 2”. “Apple 2” is a Jan Hooymans hen credited with two top-10 hotspot finishes at the Million Dollar race, bred from “Brother Harry” and “Daughter Cornelis”. This mating combines the Einkamerer one-loft racing family with Hooymans breeding, reinforcing the Harry, Jonge Bliksem and Dirkje influence found on the sire’s side.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	butch	R5,500	Current bid: R5,500
8th November 2026 11:17	LOT 48 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Loft Einkamerer-ZA-25-LOFT EINKAMERER-175 -5TH RACE 9 EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE: ZA 22 0236 “PIZZARO FAVORITE” A blue bar Einkamerer cock combining Jan Hooymans’ celebrated Harry family with Scheele breeding. Bred from NL 16 1663446 “Pizzal”, whose parents are “Brother Harry” and a daughter of “Harry”, paired to NL 13 1395514 “Balloneke”. His pedigree brings together the influential Jonge Bliksem, Dirkje, Superboy and Daughter 666 bloodlines—a strong breeding foundation with depth in internationally recognised racing families.———- DAM: EIN 23 170 “APPLE 2 13811” A blue bar Einkamerer hen bred from SRPV 18 0103 “Black Knight 103” and NL 13 1395456 “Apple 2”. “Apple 2” is a Jan Hooymans hen credited with two top-10 hotspot finishes at the Million Dollar race, bred from “Brother Harry” and “Daughter Cornelis”. This mating combines the Einkamerer one-loft racing family with Hooymans breeding, reinforcing the Harry, Jonge Bliksem and Dirkje influence found on the sire’s side.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R5,000	Current bid: R5,500
8th November 2026 11:17	LOT 48 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Loft Einkamerer-ZA-25-LOFT EINKAMERER-175 -5TH RACE 9 EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE: ZA 22 0236 “PIZZARO FAVORITE” A blue bar Einkamerer cock combining Jan Hooymans’ celebrated Harry family with Scheele breeding. Bred from NL 16 1663446 “Pizzal”, whose parents are “Brother Harry” and a daughter of “Harry”, paired to NL 13 1395514 “Balloneke”. His pedigree brings together the influential Jonge Bliksem, Dirkje, Superboy and Daughter 666 bloodlines—a strong breeding foundation with depth in internationally recognised racing families.———- DAM: EIN 23 170 “APPLE 2 13811” A blue bar Einkamerer hen bred from SRPV 18 0103 “Black Knight 103” and NL 13 1395456 “Apple 2”. “Apple 2” is a Jan Hooymans hen credited with two top-10 hotspot finishes at the Million Dollar race, bred from “Brother Harry” and “Daughter Cornelis”. This mating combines the Einkamerer one-loft racing family with Hooymans breeding, reinforcing the Harry, Jonge Bliksem and Dirkje influence found on the sire’s side.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	butch	R5,000	Current bid: R5,500
8th November 2026 11:17	LOT 48 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Loft Einkamerer-ZA-25-LOFT EINKAMERER-175 -5TH RACE 9 EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE: ZA 22 0236 “PIZZARO FAVORITE” A blue bar Einkamerer cock combining Jan Hooymans’ celebrated Harry family with Scheele breeding. Bred from NL 16 1663446 “Pizzal”, whose parents are “Brother Harry” and a daughter of “Harry”, paired to NL 13 1395514 “Balloneke”. His pedigree brings together the influential Jonge Bliksem, Dirkje, Superboy and Daughter 666 bloodlines—a strong breeding foundation with depth in internationally recognised racing families.———- DAM: EIN 23 170 “APPLE 2 13811” A blue bar Einkamerer hen bred from SRPV 18 0103 “Black Knight 103” and NL 13 1395456 “Apple 2”. “Apple 2” is a Jan Hooymans hen credited with two top-10 hotspot finishes at the Million Dollar race, bred from “Brother Harry” and “Daughter Cornelis”. This mating combines the Einkamerer one-loft racing family with Hooymans breeding, reinforcing the Harry, Jonge Bliksem and Dirkje influence found on the sire’s side.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R4,500	Current bid: R5,500
8th November 2026 11:17	LOT 48 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Loft Einkamerer-ZA-25-LOFT EINKAMERER-175 -5TH RACE 9 EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE: ZA 22 0236 “PIZZARO FAVORITE” A blue bar Einkamerer cock combining Jan Hooymans’ celebrated Harry family with Scheele breeding. Bred from NL 16 1663446 “Pizzal”, whose parents are “Brother Harry” and a daughter of “Harry”, paired to NL 13 1395514 “Balloneke”. His pedigree brings together the influential Jonge Bliksem, Dirkje, Superboy and Daughter 666 bloodlines—a strong breeding foundation with depth in internationally recognised racing families.———- DAM: EIN 23 170 “APPLE 2 13811” A blue bar Einkamerer hen bred from SRPV 18 0103 “Black Knight 103” and NL 13 1395456 “Apple 2”. “Apple 2” is a Jan Hooymans hen credited with two top-10 hotspot finishes at the Million Dollar race, bred from “Brother Harry” and “Daughter Cornelis”. This mating combines the Einkamerer one-loft racing family with Hooymans breeding, reinforcing the Harry, Jonge Bliksem and Dirkje influence found on the sire’s side.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	butch	R4,000	Current bid: R5,500
8th November 2026 11:15	LOT 48 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Loft Einkamerer-ZA-25-LOFT EINKAMERER-175 -5TH RACE 9 EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE: ZA 22 0236 “PIZZARO FAVORITE” A blue bar Einkamerer cock combining Jan Hooymans’ celebrated Harry family with Scheele breeding. Bred from NL 16 1663446 “Pizzal”, whose parents are “Brother Harry” and a daughter of “Harry”, paired to NL 13 1395514 “Balloneke”. His pedigree brings together the influential Jonge Bliksem, Dirkje, Superboy and Daughter 666 bloodlines—a strong breeding foundation with depth in internationally recognised racing families.———- DAM: EIN 23 170 “APPLE 2 13811” A blue bar Einkamerer hen bred from SRPV 18 0103 “Black Knight 103” and NL 13 1395456 “Apple 2”. “Apple 2” is a Jan Hooymans hen credited with two top-10 hotspot finishes at the Million Dollar race, bred from “Brother Harry” and “Daughter Cornelis”. This mating combines the Einkamerer one-loft racing family with Hooymans breeding, reinforcing the Harry, Jonge Bliksem and Dirkje influence found on the sire’s side.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R3,500	Current bid: R5,500
8th November 2026 11:15	LOT 48 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Loft Einkamerer-ZA-25-LOFT EINKAMERER-175 -5TH RACE 9 EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE: ZA 22 0236 “PIZZARO FAVORITE” A blue bar Einkamerer cock combining Jan Hooymans’ celebrated Harry family with Scheele breeding. Bred from NL 16 1663446 “Pizzal”, whose parents are “Brother Harry” and a daughter of “Harry”, paired to NL 13 1395514 “Balloneke”. His pedigree brings together the influential Jonge Bliksem, Dirkje, Superboy and Daughter 666 bloodlines—a strong breeding foundation with depth in internationally recognised racing families.———- DAM: EIN 23 170 “APPLE 2 13811” A blue bar Einkamerer hen bred from SRPV 18 0103 “Black Knight 103” and NL 13 1395456 “Apple 2”. “Apple 2” is a Jan Hooymans hen credited with two top-10 hotspot finishes at the Million Dollar race, bred from “Brother Harry” and “Daughter Cornelis”. This mating combines the Einkamerer one-loft racing family with Hooymans breeding, reinforcing the Harry, Jonge Bliksem and Dirkje influence found on the sire’s side.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	butch	R3,000	Current bid: R5,500
8th November 2026 11:15	LOT 66 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Huenten-Bevermannn-NL-25-1516220 – “TURBO KITTI” – 11TH RACE 2 EQUAL WINNER , 30TH RACE 4 EQUAL WINNER , FLEW 3 X TOP 100——–SIRE: DV-23-02884-47 “Enkel Jaap”. Horst and Frank Sander cock, five prizes from six races for 337.04 Ace points. From Laurenz BE-19-5031249 and Beauty Jaap DV-15-02884-483.——— DAM: DV-22-02055-1. Van den Bulck red hen from Zucht AS DV-19-04864-566 and Die Blau DV-17-04411-54. The paternal family includes Lena, recorded as 4th AfrikaPro Blue Jacket in 2025.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000
8th November 2026 11:12	LOT 51 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-OOA & Len Knoetze Lofts-ZA-25-VPU-4433 -SIRE: ZA 20 VPU 4633 — “BRO 1ST SAIPR WINTER 2023” A blue bar cock combining the renowned 810/8855 and Golden Carelly bloodlines. He scored in all five races, recording 2nd, 5th, 4th, 21st and 57th Union, and achieved 20th Short Distance Ace and 13th Overall Ace in 2021. A full brother to “The Magician,” the 2023 SAIPR Final winner, who sold for R159,000. His breeding record includes ZA VPU 7049/24, 4th Short Distance Ace and 11th Overall Young Bird Ace in the TRPF, and ZA VPU 4433/25, 22nd in Race 3 at AfrikaPro 2026.———– DAM: NL 21 1293540 — “PIED PRINCESS KITTEL” A blue bar pied hen bred from the celebrated Dirk Van Den Bulck Kittel and Greipel lines. Her sire, BELG 18 4224997, “Top Child Kittel,” is bred from “Kittel” and “Princess Kittel,” while her dam, BELG 18 4237322, “Top Child Greipel,” brings together “Greipel” and “Inbred Goede Rode.” She is the dam of ZA VPU 6674/24, “The Freak Hen,” who scored in 11 consecutive races and earned 1st Club Short Distance Young Bird Ace and 1st Club Short Distance Ace for Old and Young Birds Combined. Also dam of ZA VPU 4433/25, 22nd in Race 3 at AfrikaPro 2026.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
8th November 2026 11:01	LOT 16 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-OOA & Len Knoetze Lofts-ZA-25-GRPF-0426 -SIRE: ZA 22 ABL 883 — “MEALY TURBO KITTEL 883” A red chequer cock from Alwyn Bester’s Dirk Van Den Bulck/Kittel family, bred from “DI CAPRIO 11” (GB 18 V 63384) and NLD 19 1418637, the dam of “TURBO KITTEL.” His pedigree combines established breeding lines with SANPO Gold Medal performance. Sire of ZA VPU 4265/25, 5th Final SAIPR Winter 2026, and ZA OOA 337/25, equal first on the drop and 4th Hot Spot 3 at SAIPR over 288 km, winning R10,000. His nestmate, ZA ABL 0882/22, also bred an overall Ace Pigeon in the Tshwane Pigeon Association.———– DAM: ZA 20 326066 — “SIMPLY THE BEST” An Out of Africa Aces hen with outstanding racing and breeding credentials. A double winner with Union positions including 1st, 3rd, 3rd and 8th, she earned 2nd Overall VPU Ace Pigeon in 2020 and 6th Overall VPU Ace Pigeon in 2021, scoring ten times that season. A full sister to several Ace Pigeons, she is bred from ZA 17 GPU 05450 and ZA 17 CYRILS 3773, the parents known as “Fred’s Super Pair 2.” Her pedigree brings together the Golden Carelly Ace and proven “810”/“8855” breeding lines.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
8th November 2026 10:59	LOT 13 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Jort Batenburg & PIPA (Single)-NL-25-1280048 -SIRE: BE24-4173630 – “Son Grizzle BK” Direct son of “Grizzle Best Kittel,” 2nd National Ace KBDB Sprint 2022, who finished in the top 1% in 17 of his 20 races. His dam, “Dundee Dazzler,” led the Victoria Falls World Challenge Pigeon Race Super Ace standings immediately before the final and achieved three top-100 positions in the longest hotspots. “Son Grizzle BK” is already sire to AfrikaPro results including 27th against 2,600 pigeons, 43rd against 1,964 pigeons and 46th against 1,691 pigeons.———– DAM: NL24-8398562 – “Ad x Mother Blue Ace” A daughter of “Ad,” 1st National Perpignan 2022 against 3,805 pigeons and 2nd International against 12,094 pigeons, paired to “Mother Blue Ace.” She is a half-sister to “Blue Ace,” 1st National Ace Extreme Long Distance. Her sire “Ad” is also a brother to “Bas,” 1st National Barcelona 2026, and “Amalia,” 1st National Narbonne 2025, and sire of 3rd National Dax 2025. Her maternal grandsire is “New Witbuik,” 1st National Barcelona 2012. Co-bred by Batenburg–van de Merwe and Daan Besseling, she brings together a distinguished family of national and international long-distance performers.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
8th November 2026 10:02	LOT 30 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Bredenhand – Pigeon Palace-ZA-25-TPA-7328 -13TH RACE 9 EQUAL WINNER============SIRE: JWDK-24-4002 — “95/02” A dark-check cock from Pigeon Palace, bred from Derek Walsh’s “Special Kittel” and “95 Hen.” His pedigree combines Dirk van den Bulck’s Kittel family with Heremans–Van Dyck’s National Di Caprio bloodlines. Closely related to “Lara,” noted for her outstanding AfrikaPro 2025 performances, including Blue Jacket Ace Overall, Brown Jacket Long Distance Ace and 3rd in the final race. A pedigree rich in winning performance and proven breeding strength.—————- DAM: ZAGJT-23-117 — “Chipo 117” A blue-bar hen combining the Kaasboer and Chipo families. She raced as a SAIPR tracker pigeon, consistently flying with the front pack and leading the hotspot averages up to Hotspot 2. Her sire, “Br. Benchmark 1009,” is a full brother to “Benchmark,” credited with 17 top-10 union positions and three union wins. Her dam, “Kaasboer 1975,” is described as a top breeding hen, bringing together established Kaasboer and “810” bloodlines.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	amyburg	R4,000	Current bid: R4,000
8th November 2026 9:59	ZZ..LOT 115 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-TNT Elite Centre-ZA-25-GPU-2608 -SIRE: ZA-18-CYRL-2391 “Omega”. TNT cock from The Pencil Cock and Silver Shadow GPU 18156/13, combining two of the loft’s stock branches.————– DAM: ZA-23-GPU-4631 “Enigma Sister”. Full sister to Enigma, AfrikaPro 2024 Brown Jacket winner and 2nd final. From DIAS 855/21 and GPU 7455/21.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	wes16662830	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
8th November 2026 9:58	LOT 87 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Kevin I-ZA-25-GPU-2921 -SIRE:11514. SUPER RACER FOR KEVIN KITCHENBRAND.———-DAM:ZA 24 JWDK 4101. PIGEON PALACE. BRED DIRECT OUT OF “SPECIAL KITTEL” X “95 HEN” FULL SISTER TO SUPER BREEDERS OF ALWYN BESTER “63390” AND “63384”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wes16662830	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
8th November 2026 9:57	LOT 85 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Mountain Lofts & Murray & Mills A-ZA-25-MOUN-163 -FLEW 3 X TOP 100 , 25TH GREEN JACKET——–SIRE:NL 23 9630891.Alias “NEW UNSEEN FORCES” Strain: BEST OF VAN DEN BULCK Color: BLUE BAR PIED NEW UNSEEN FORCES VERY UNIQUE SPECIAL BREEDING 11 X SUPER PAIR “GOEDE RODE” X “OLYMPIC ROSITA” IN HIS PEDIGREE.———-DAM:ZA 18 MOUN 706.Alias “AVANTE” Strain: FERDIE & PIETER LUBBE Color: MEALY “AVANTE” ZA18 MOUN 706 ONE OF OUR STAR BREEDERS DAM TO MULTIPLE WINNERS WITH DIFFERENT COCKS 1ST GAUTENG COMBINE SPRINGFONTEIN 570KM 1118MPM AGAINST 5000 PLUS PIGEONS 400 MEMBERS.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	gertswart	R10,000	Current bid: R10,000
8th November 2026 9:57	LOT 85 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Mountain Lofts & Murray & Mills A-ZA-25-MOUN-163 -FLEW 3 X TOP 100 , 25TH GREEN JACKET——–SIRE:NL 23 9630891.Alias “NEW UNSEEN FORCES” Strain: BEST OF VAN DEN BULCK Color: BLUE BAR PIED NEW UNSEEN FORCES VERY UNIQUE SPECIAL BREEDING 11 X SUPER PAIR “GOEDE RODE” X “OLYMPIC ROSITA” IN HIS PEDIGREE.———-DAM:ZA 18 MOUN 706.Alias “AVANTE” Strain: FERDIE & PIETER LUBBE Color: MEALY “AVANTE” ZA18 MOUN 706 ONE OF OUR STAR BREEDERS DAM TO MULTIPLE WINNERS WITH DIFFERENT COCKS 1ST GAUTENG COMBINE SPRINGFONTEIN 570KM 1118MPM AGAINST 5000 PLUS PIGEONS 400 MEMBERS.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	toppigeon	R9,500	Current bid: R10,000
8th November 2026 9:57	LOT 85 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Mountain Lofts & Murray & Mills A-ZA-25-MOUN-163 -FLEW 3 X TOP 100 , 25TH GREEN JACKET——–SIRE:NL 23 9630891.Alias “NEW UNSEEN FORCES” Strain: BEST OF VAN DEN BULCK Color: BLUE BAR PIED NEW UNSEEN FORCES VERY UNIQUE SPECIAL BREEDING 11 X SUPER PAIR “GOEDE RODE” X “OLYMPIC ROSITA” IN HIS PEDIGREE.———-DAM:ZA 18 MOUN 706.Alias “AVANTE” Strain: FERDIE & PIETER LUBBE Color: MEALY “AVANTE” ZA18 MOUN 706 ONE OF OUR STAR BREEDERS DAM TO MULTIPLE WINNERS WITH DIFFERENT COCKS 1ST GAUTENG COMBINE SPRINGFONTEIN 570KM 1118MPM AGAINST 5000 PLUS PIGEONS 400 MEMBERS.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	toppigeon	R8,000	Current bid: R10,000
8th November 2026 9:57	LOT 85 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Mountain Lofts & Murray & Mills A-ZA-25-MOUN-163 -FLEW 3 X TOP 100 , 25TH GREEN JACKET——–SIRE:NL 23 9630891.Alias “NEW UNSEEN FORCES” Strain: BEST OF VAN DEN BULCK Color: BLUE BAR PIED NEW UNSEEN FORCES VERY UNIQUE SPECIAL BREEDING 11 X SUPER PAIR “GOEDE RODE” X “OLYMPIC ROSITA” IN HIS PEDIGREE.———-DAM:ZA 18 MOUN 706.Alias “AVANTE” Strain: FERDIE & PIETER LUBBE Color: MEALY “AVANTE” ZA18 MOUN 706 ONE OF OUR STAR BREEDERS DAM TO MULTIPLE WINNERS WITH DIFFERENT COCKS 1ST GAUTENG COMBINE SPRINGFONTEIN 570KM 1118MPM AGAINST 5000 PLUS PIGEONS 400 MEMBERS.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	gertswart	R8,500	Current bid: R10,000
8th November 2026 9:51	LOT 40 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Pigeon Palace I-ZA-25-TPA-12441 -2ND RACE 7 EQUAL WINNER—-20TH RACE 3—–SIRE: BELG 20 6243189 “KATALIS NEW KIM”. KAASBOER. BROTHER X NIECE NEW KIM BOUGHT FROM PIPA. INBRED BROTHER AND NIECE TO 1ST NAT ACE BIRD “NEW KIM”. FATHER IS FULL BROTHER TO NEW KIM.———DAM:ZA-17-28777 H ‘Super 777′ van Loon.Superbreeding hen !!! Gold medal Ace PWDU old birds ’19. 3rd Ace short distance & 7th best Yearling union 18. 28777 aka the ’10 min pair hen’. Dam to great champions like 3047/21 winner by 10 minutes! The 10 minute pair bred more than 10 winners to date!SEE PEDIGREE!!!	rolien-kingoutlook-com	R5,500	Current bid: R5,500

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.LOT 4 DANIE SCHOLTZ / JACO FAUL – ZA 21 CYRL 4770 -SIRE: ZA 15 GPU 13771 “DOUBLE CARELLY”. MY BEST CARELLY COCK BRED CLUB WINNER 4154 HANOVER DERBY 2018 . BRED BEST BIRD MIDDLE DISTANCE 2021.—— DAM: 08378 ZA 17 GPU.DOUBLE CARELLY.SEE PEDIGREE!!