LOT 28 BOTHA LOFTS – ZA 16 02813 -SIRE:20399 ZA 14. SPRITZY/VAN ELSACKER. FIRST YEAR AT STOCK HE BRED 2ND ACE GRAND AVERAGE DINOKENG 2015————–DAM:01572 ZANFS 10 . HOUBEN. 3 X NFS COMBINE WINNER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

Name: LOT 28 BOTHA LOFTS - ZA 16 02813 -SIRE:20399 ZA 14. SPRITZY/VAN ELSACKER. FIRST YEAR AT STOCK HE BRED 2ND ACE GRAND AVERAGE DINOKENG 2015--------------DAM:01572 ZANFS 10 . HOUBEN. 3 X NFS COMBINE WINNER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
SKU: 41960
Availability: InStock

Winning Bid: R1,000

Item condition: New

Category: ACTIVE AUCTION - BOTHA LOFTS - FROM 16 MAY TO SUNDAY 19 MAY 2024 (ENDS FROM 15:00)

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Date	Bid	User	Auto
18th May 2024 2:23	R1,000	Soldierboy
16th May 2024 16:31	Auction started

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2nd October 2026 11:04	ZZ.. LOT 111 DINOKENG OLR – MARAIS BROTHERS & LELLYETT-ZA GRPF 25- 2722 -SIRE:ZA 21 CRU 1142 COCK -SCORED 5X TIMES CLUB 2022. HIS SIRE IS HALF BROTHER TO ABL 167 & 168.———–DAM:ZA 22 J&B 627 CH – BRED BY AFRIKAPRO BLACK JACKET CHAMPIONS 2023 . DAM IS TURBO QUEEN.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	steyn	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
2nd October 2026 10:33	LOT 17 DINOKENG OLR – MUNNIK/DU RANDT & KOK-ZA ODRA 25- 5932 -SIRE:662 J&B 22 ZA.Strain: Turbo TOM Color: CHECK BRED BY DU PREEZ AND DEETLEFS . INBRED TURBO TOM FOR STOCK.————DAM:11942 24 ZA.Strain: KITTEL CROSS Color: BLUEBAR FLEW AT DINOKENG LOFTS 2025. NESTMATE TOT 11896 ,13TH ACE BIRD DINOKENG 2025.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	home-s-home	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
2nd October 2026 10:17	LOT 20 DINOKENG OLR – HARRY WILLSON-ZA TRPF 25- 4635 -FINAL RACE WINNER WINNING R150 000.00—-SIRE BOUGHT FOR R301 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON—————–SIRE – 123 CAS 2023, “MARLBANK ACE” . GAVIN ROUS. Marlbank Ace 2024, with an 18th-place finish in the 635 km Richmond Final. He also placed 3rd in Hotspot 6 (564 km), 4th in Hotspot 5 (511 km), 11th in Hotspot 4 (511 km), 3rd in Hotspot 2 (357 km) and 5th in Hotspot 1 (310 km). His sire, 14 CAS 2014, was a first-prize winner and 3rd Ace Pigeon at club level. His dam, 4645 NOK 2017, is a three-time winner and the dam of Mega Queenie, 4th Ace Pigeon at Genetic OLR 2023.————–DAM – 4937 CYRILS 2023 A full sister to 4938, a top Marlbank performer who led the Ace Bird standings until the final. The pedigree also records 4937 as a breeder of top performers at one loft races. Her sire, 7425 TRPF 2020 “Shamwari Muchina,” was the 3rd Best Middle Distance Open Bird in the Union in 2022. Her dam, the Hooymans hen 10910 VPU 2022, was 4th Ace Bird at Marlbank OLR 2023 and won both Trompsburg and Hanover.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!	gjsudhshsh	R95,000	Current bid: R95,000
2nd October 2026 10:17	LOT 20 DINOKENG OLR – HARRY WILLSON-ZA TRPF 25- 4635 -FINAL RACE WINNER WINNING R150 000.00—-SIRE BOUGHT FOR R301 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON—————–SIRE – 123 CAS 2023, “MARLBANK ACE” . GAVIN ROUS. Marlbank Ace 2024, with an 18th-place finish in the 635 km Richmond Final. He also placed 3rd in Hotspot 6 (564 km), 4th in Hotspot 5 (511 km), 11th in Hotspot 4 (511 km), 3rd in Hotspot 2 (357 km) and 5th in Hotspot 1 (310 km). His sire, 14 CAS 2014, was a first-prize winner and 3rd Ace Pigeon at club level. His dam, 4645 NOK 2017, is a three-time winner and the dam of Mega Queenie, 4th Ace Pigeon at Genetic OLR 2023.————–DAM – 4937 CYRILS 2023 A full sister to 4938, a top Marlbank performer who led the Ace Bird standings until the final. The pedigree also records 4937 as a breeder of top performers at one loft races. Her sire, 7425 TRPF 2020 “Shamwari Muchina,” was the 3rd Best Middle Distance Open Bird in the Union in 2022. Her dam, the Hooymans hen 10910 VPU 2022, was 4th Ace Bird at Marlbank OLR 2023 and won both Trompsburg and Hanover.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!	gjsudhshsh	R93,000	Current bid: R95,000
2nd October 2026 10:17	LOT 20 DINOKENG OLR – HARRY WILLSON-ZA TRPF 25- 4635 -FINAL RACE WINNER WINNING R150 000.00—-SIRE BOUGHT FOR R301 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON—————–SIRE – 123 CAS 2023, “MARLBANK ACE” . GAVIN ROUS. Marlbank Ace 2024, with an 18th-place finish in the 635 km Richmond Final. He also placed 3rd in Hotspot 6 (564 km), 4th in Hotspot 5 (511 km), 11th in Hotspot 4 (511 km), 3rd in Hotspot 2 (357 km) and 5th in Hotspot 1 (310 km). His sire, 14 CAS 2014, was a first-prize winner and 3rd Ace Pigeon at club level. His dam, 4645 NOK 2017, is a three-time winner and the dam of Mega Queenie, 4th Ace Pigeon at Genetic OLR 2023.————–DAM – 4937 CYRILS 2023 A full sister to 4938, a top Marlbank performer who led the Ace Bird standings until the final. The pedigree also records 4937 as a breeder of top performers at one loft races. Her sire, 7425 TRPF 2020 “Shamwari Muchina,” was the 3rd Best Middle Distance Open Bird in the Union in 2022. Her dam, the Hooymans hen 10910 VPU 2022, was 4th Ace Bird at Marlbank OLR 2023 and won both Trompsburg and Hanover.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!	robert12345gmail-com	R94,000	Current bid: R95,000
2nd October 2026 9:57	LOT 74 DINOKENG OLR – FRANCOIS STEINMAN-ZA KHS 25- 2103 -SIRE: 1485 BPF 19. JJJ VD LINDE.—————DAM: 3458 GPU 22 ZA.Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar Full brother or sister to ROCKY who bred ZA BPF/D 6986 ’19 “PILOT EYE” 4th ACE bird OLR Dinokeng 2020 and 8th Barzalona race, Gariep Dam, 624km, 985 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 934 ’21 MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner at OLR Dinokeng 2021, Barzalona race, Hanover , 1052 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 992 STORM CHASER, Dinkokeng OLR Final Winner, by 4 minutes. ROCKY bred 1st season at stud equal winner.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	geronimo	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
2nd October 2026 9:15	LOT 20 DINOKENG OLR – HARRY WILLSON-ZA TRPF 25- 4635 -FINAL RACE WINNER WINNING R150 000.00—-SIRE BOUGHT FOR R301 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON—————–SIRE – 123 CAS 2023, “MARLBANK ACE” . GAVIN ROUS. Marlbank Ace 2024, with an 18th-place finish in the 635 km Richmond Final. He also placed 3rd in Hotspot 6 (564 km), 4th in Hotspot 5 (511 km), 11th in Hotspot 4 (511 km), 3rd in Hotspot 2 (357 km) and 5th in Hotspot 1 (310 km). His sire, 14 CAS 2014, was a first-prize winner and 3rd Ace Pigeon at club level. His dam, 4645 NOK 2017, is a three-time winner and the dam of Mega Queenie, 4th Ace Pigeon at Genetic OLR 2023.————–DAM – 4937 CYRILS 2023 A full sister to 4938, a top Marlbank performer who led the Ace Bird standings until the final. The pedigree also records 4937 as a breeder of top performers at one loft races. Her sire, 7425 TRPF 2020 “Shamwari Muchina,” was the 3rd Best Middle Distance Open Bird in the Union in 2022. Her dam, the Hooymans hen 10910 VPU 2022, was 4th Ace Bird at Marlbank OLR 2023 and won both Trompsburg and Hanover.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!	robert12345gmail-com	R91,000	Current bid: R95,000
2nd October 2026 8:09	LOT 64 DINOKENG OLR – FRANCOIS STEINMAN-ZA KHS 25- 2143 -3RD RACE 5 EQUAL WINNER ———-SIRE:34724 ZA 17.Alias “Die Perongeluk Cock” Strain: Alwyn Bester Color: Blue Bar Full brother to “Golden Star” 6th best Grand Averages 2017 in DERBY ARONA one loft race,from 3037 paid entries in the Canary Islands. Brother to “Concorde” the GOLD MEDAL SANPO OVERALL 2015.———–DAM:310 BPF 23 ZA .Strain: JJJ VAN DER LINDE Color: Blue Bar FULL SISTER TO “JJJ’S STORM CHASER” 1ST WINNER BY 4 MINUTES OLR FINAL DINOKENG 2022,ONLY TWO BIRDS ON THE DROP!!! FULL SISTER TO JJJ’STORM LEADING 1ST ACE BIRD OLR DINOKENG UP TO THE FINAL 2021,G/DAM “JJJ’STRUE MAGIC” FULL SISTER”JJJ’DREAM” TO DAM OF OLR SONSKYN EQUAL FINAL WINNER “JJJ’SLINDIE”TWO BIRDS ON THE DROP 37 MINUTES BREAK 2019.”JJJ’SLINDIE”SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	elzaan	R6,000	Current bid: R6,000
2nd October 2026 7:32	LOT 38 DINOKENG OLR – KOBUS & MARIETJIE-ZA PPFH 25- 061 -18TH FINAL RACE———–SIRE:0760 BDU 24. DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS.SIRE IS FULL BROTHER TO 8 X SANPO MEDAL WINNER TURBO KITTEL————DAM:00645 W 645 18 KITTEL HEN BB KITTEL MA VAN 2022- 2 DE FINAL ODL WINNERSFLIGHT 2022-DINOKENG 28 STE MAIN RACE,15 ACE,7 DE GRAND AVER,4 DW 3/1 KOMPETIESIE DINOKENG 2023 2 DE- 1STE HOTSPOT.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	mike	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
2nd October 2026 7:31	LOT 29 DINOKENG OLR – CAMELOT HOKKE-ZA CAMELOT 26- 225 -DINO 225 raced at Dinokeng Oneloft 2026 He is bred out of 2 birds that did exceptionally well on long hard races————SIRE: 204 22 PPKD.Alias “204” Strain: WEBSTER/OSWALD Color: Mealy FED Winner Cookhouse Opens 1 by more than 50mins 646km 847m/m————–DAM:497 23 NWKD. PETRUS HARMZEN/FERDIE LUBBE.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	mike	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
2nd October 2026 6:49	ZZ.. LOT 115 DINOKENG OLR – BOTHA LOFTS-ZA CRU – DERBY 2025 3100 -SIRE:1782 CRU 21.ALWYN BESTER F/BRO. TO TURBO KITTEL OF DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS – SOLD R105 000. BEST BIRD IN SOUTH AFRICA. 8X SANPO MEDAL WINNER. 6X GOLD, 1X SILVER AND 1X BRONZE. 5X WINNER. BEST BIRD UNION. BEST YB UNION AND M.DIST. BIRD UNION. F/BROTHER 9059/20-R247000,9060/20-R173 000. 32/23, 2ND UNION KROONSTAD BABY RACE—————-DAM:411 ABL 21 RED ALWYN BESTER BOUGHT FOR STOCK FROM ALWYN BESTER. BRED BOTHA 44/23, WON ALL x4 PWDU BABY RACES. 3RD WINBURG, 8TH HANOVER AND 10TH SMITHFIELD. 55/22, UNION WINNER MIDDELBURG BY 24MIN, 2ND UNION THREE SISTERS. 129/23 UNION WINNER MIDDELBURG. 36/23 UNION WINNER THREE SISTERS. 312/24 2ND UNION NOUPOORT.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	louis12345	R4,000	Current bid: R4,000
2nd October 2026 6:47	LOT 90 DINOKENG OLR – BOTHA LOFTS-ZA CRU-DERBY 25- 3180 -5TH BARZALONA EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE:581 BOTHAS 24.F/BRO. TO TURBO KITTEL OF DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS. TURBO KITTEL WAS BEST BIRD IN SOUTH AFRICA. 8X SANPO MEDAL WINNER. 6X GOLD, 1X SILVER AND 1X BRONZE. 5X WINNER. BEST BIRD UNION. BEST YB UNION AND M.DIST. BIRD UNION. F/BROTHER 9059/20-R247000,9060/20-R173 000. 32/23,———–DAM:575 BOTHAS 24. BOTHA LOFTS. BRED OUT OF A FULL BROTHER AND FULL SISTER TO TURBO QUEEN.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	louis12345	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000
2nd October 2026 5:38	LOT 90 DINOKENG OLR – BOTHA LOFTS-ZA CRU-DERBY 25- 3180 -5TH BARZALONA EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE:581 BOTHAS 24.F/BRO. TO TURBO KITTEL OF DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS. TURBO KITTEL WAS BEST BIRD IN SOUTH AFRICA. 8X SANPO MEDAL WINNER. 6X GOLD, 1X SILVER AND 1X BRONZE. 5X WINNER. BEST BIRD UNION. BEST YB UNION AND M.DIST. BIRD UNION. F/BROTHER 9059/20-R247000,9060/20-R173 000. 32/23,———–DAM:575 BOTHAS 24. BOTHA LOFTS. BRED OUT OF A FULL BROTHER AND FULL SISTER TO TURBO QUEEN.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	pigeon123	R2,500	Current bid: R3,000
2nd October 2026 5:26	LOT 64 DINOKENG OLR – FRANCOIS STEINMAN-ZA KHS 25- 2143 -3RD RACE 5 EQUAL WINNER ———-SIRE:34724 ZA 17.Alias “Die Perongeluk Cock” Strain: Alwyn Bester Color: Blue Bar Full brother to “Golden Star” 6th best Grand Averages 2017 in DERBY ARONA one loft race,from 3037 paid entries in the Canary Islands. Brother to “Concorde” the GOLD MEDAL SANPO OVERALL 2015.———–DAM:310 BPF 23 ZA .Strain: JJJ VAN DER LINDE Color: Blue Bar FULL SISTER TO “JJJ’S STORM CHASER” 1ST WINNER BY 4 MINUTES OLR FINAL DINOKENG 2022,ONLY TWO BIRDS ON THE DROP!!! FULL SISTER TO JJJ’STORM LEADING 1ST ACE BIRD OLR DINOKENG UP TO THE FINAL 2021,G/DAM “JJJ’STRUE MAGIC” FULL SISTER”JJJ’DREAM” TO DAM OF OLR SONSKYN EQUAL FINAL WINNER “JJJ’SLINDIE”TWO BIRDS ON THE DROP 37 MINUTES BREAK 2019.”JJJ’SLINDIE”SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	pigeon123	R5,500	Current bid: R6,000
2nd October 2026 5:25	LOT 64 DINOKENG OLR – FRANCOIS STEINMAN-ZA KHS 25- 2143 -3RD RACE 5 EQUAL WINNER ———-SIRE:34724 ZA 17.Alias “Die Perongeluk Cock” Strain: Alwyn Bester Color: Blue Bar Full brother to “Golden Star” 6th best Grand Averages 2017 in DERBY ARONA one loft race,from 3037 paid entries in the Canary Islands. Brother to “Concorde” the GOLD MEDAL SANPO OVERALL 2015.———–DAM:310 BPF 23 ZA .Strain: JJJ VAN DER LINDE Color: Blue Bar FULL SISTER TO “JJJ’S STORM CHASER” 1ST WINNER BY 4 MINUTES OLR FINAL DINOKENG 2022,ONLY TWO BIRDS ON THE DROP!!! FULL SISTER TO JJJ’STORM LEADING 1ST ACE BIRD OLR DINOKENG UP TO THE FINAL 2021,G/DAM “JJJ’STRUE MAGIC” FULL SISTER”JJJ’DREAM” TO DAM OF OLR SONSKYN EQUAL FINAL WINNER “JJJ’SLINDIE”TWO BIRDS ON THE DROP 37 MINUTES BREAK 2019.”JJJ’SLINDIE”SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	et	R5,000	Current bid: R6,000
2nd October 2026 5:25	LOT 64 DINOKENG OLR – FRANCOIS STEINMAN-ZA KHS 25- 2143 -3RD RACE 5 EQUAL WINNER ———-SIRE:34724 ZA 17.Alias “Die Perongeluk Cock” Strain: Alwyn Bester Color: Blue Bar Full brother to “Golden Star” 6th best Grand Averages 2017 in DERBY ARONA one loft race,from 3037 paid entries in the Canary Islands. Brother to “Concorde” the GOLD MEDAL SANPO OVERALL 2015.———–DAM:310 BPF 23 ZA .Strain: JJJ VAN DER LINDE Color: Blue Bar FULL SISTER TO “JJJ’S STORM CHASER” 1ST WINNER BY 4 MINUTES OLR FINAL DINOKENG 2022,ONLY TWO BIRDS ON THE DROP!!! FULL SISTER TO JJJ’STORM LEADING 1ST ACE BIRD OLR DINOKENG UP TO THE FINAL 2021,G/DAM “JJJ’STRUE MAGIC” FULL SISTER”JJJ’DREAM” TO DAM OF OLR SONSKYN EQUAL FINAL WINNER “JJJ’SLINDIE”TWO BIRDS ON THE DROP 37 MINUTES BREAK 2019.”JJJ’SLINDIE”SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	pigeon123	R5,000	Current bid: R6,000
2nd October 2026 5:21	LOT 55 DINOKENG OLR – HARRY WILLSON-ZA TRPF 25- 4667 -10TH ACE PIGEON , 3RD RACE 3 EQUAL WINNER———–SIRE:6014 TRPF 2024 BB. GPU RICHMOND WINNER.———–DAM:29 TRPF 2024.Winner Verkeerdevei.ERPC . BRED OUT OF SAIPR FINAL RACE WINNER OF OUT OF AFRICA “THE MIGICIAN” MATED TO CARNIVAL FINAL RACE WINNER OF UMBERTI.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	pigeon123	R4,500	Current bid: R5,000
2nd October 2026 5:21	LOT 55 DINOKENG OLR – HARRY WILLSON-ZA TRPF 25- 4667 -10TH ACE PIGEON , 3RD RACE 3 EQUAL WINNER———–SIRE:6014 TRPF 2024 BB. GPU RICHMOND WINNER.———–DAM:29 TRPF 2024.Winner Verkeerdevei.ERPC . BRED OUT OF SAIPR FINAL RACE WINNER OF OUT OF AFRICA “THE MIGICIAN” MATED TO CARNIVAL FINAL RACE WINNER OF UMBERTI.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	aneeskathrada	R5,000	Current bid: R5,000
2nd October 2026 5:21	LOT 55 DINOKENG OLR – HARRY WILLSON-ZA TRPF 25- 4667 -10TH ACE PIGEON , 3RD RACE 3 EQUAL WINNER———–SIRE:6014 TRPF 2024 BB. GPU RICHMOND WINNER.———–DAM:29 TRPF 2024.Winner Verkeerdevei.ERPC . BRED OUT OF SAIPR FINAL RACE WINNER OF OUT OF AFRICA “THE MIGICIAN” MATED TO CARNIVAL FINAL RACE WINNER OF UMBERTI.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	aneeskathrada	R4,000	Current bid: R5,000
2nd October 2026 5:21	LOT 55 DINOKENG OLR – HARRY WILLSON-ZA TRPF 25- 4667 -10TH ACE PIGEON , 3RD RACE 3 EQUAL WINNER———–SIRE:6014 TRPF 2024 BB. GPU RICHMOND WINNER.———–DAM:29 TRPF 2024.Winner Verkeerdevei.ERPC . BRED OUT OF SAIPR FINAL RACE WINNER OF OUT OF AFRICA “THE MIGICIAN” MATED TO CARNIVAL FINAL RACE WINNER OF UMBERTI.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	pigeon123	R3,500	Current bid: R5,000

LOT 28 BOTHA LOFTS – ZA 16 02813 -SIRE:20399 ZA 14. SPRITZY/VAN ELSACKER. FIRST YEAR AT STOCK HE BRED 2ND ACE GRAND AVERAGE DINOKENG 2015————–DAM:01572 ZANFS 10 . HOUBEN. 3 X NFS COMBINE WINNER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

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