LOT 10 MID AUGUST – NL 17 1625980 – “KARCI” Dam to Lena 8th NPO Troyes 7.720p Dam to Maggy 5th Nat Ace One Day Long Distance 2020 .Dam to BORD 4710/23 1st Race 3 Diaz Baby Series 2023 11656mpm .Heremans-Ceusters Bloodline Orig Beute & Hansen.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

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7th November 2026 21:41	.LOT 9 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Hendrik Huyser & Abreu-ZA-25-CRU DERBY-3735 —-50TH GREEN JACKET—–SIRE: 270 ZA 24 HHH.Alias “INBRED KITTEL” Strain: KITTEL DIRK VAN DEN BULCK Color: Red Check BRED FOR STOCK, ————-DAM:265 ZA 24 HHH.Alias “INBRED 810” Strain: 810 SABLON COLLECTION Color: Blue Bar BRED FOR STOCK.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	fishing	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
7th November 2026 21:32	LOT 21 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Pretoria Rebels-ZA-25-TPA-7361 -BRED BY PIGEON PALACE——-combining Kittel sprint bloodlines with the proven Miracle Lady and Super Sagan breeding families. A sibling to “Millenium 95,” recorded in the pedigree as 10th Super Ace at the Victoria Falls ’26 final. Closely related to “Lara” and “Fiero,” outstanding performers at Afrika Pro ’25. A pedigree bringing together racing performance and generations of successful breeders.——— SIRE: TPA-25-1000 — “95/1000” A Pigeon Palace cock bred from Derek Walsh’s “Special Kittel” and “95 Hen.” His pedigree combines “Supersprint Kittel,” “Unicum Kittel,” “Kittel Bolt” and “National Di Caprio.” Recorded as the sire of the 10th-place final bird in the Victoria Falls World Challenge endurance race in 2026. Closely related to “Lara,” credited with Blue Jacket Ace overall, Brown Jacket long-distance Ace and 3rd in the Afrika Pro ’25 final, as well as “Fiero,” 2nd in the final.———- DAM: GBV-22-79016 — “Double Miracle” A red chequer hen from Derek Walsh, bred from “Grey Wolf” and “Super Star.” A double granddaughter of “Miracle Lady,” combining Heremans–Van den Bulck and Super Sagan bloodlines. Her pedigree records her as the mother of numerous winners, including 1st Federation against 3,241, 3,068 and 1,782 pigeons, and 1st National IHU NFC against 730 pigeons. A proven breeding hen from a family with an extensive record of Federation and National success.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	toni-dossantos65gmail-com	R5,500	Current bid: R5,500
7th November 2026 21:20	ZZ..LOT 112 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Team GMD-ZA-25-TPA-7320 -SIRE:ZA-17-28686 C ‘Super AJ’.Great racer also Ace pigeon middle distance. Sire to 2 federation winners mated to ‘Super 57’. This cock is a champion breeder from a line of winners! SANPO gold medal winners from the grandmother 180k hen. Top handler with a beautiful golden breeding eye..———DAM:ZA 19 PRPC 10434. BRED DIRECTLY OUT OF Alias “MR GOLD” Strain: HUYSER Color: BC THIS COCK IS A RACING LEGEND SANPO OVERALL GOLD MEDAL 2017 BEST BIRD PTA COMBINE OVERALL BEST SHORT DISTANCE UNION BEST OPEN BIRD PTA COMBINE BEST BIRD PTA UNION BEST OPEN BIRD PTA UNION 2 X COMBINE WINNER 3 X UNION WINNER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	torrez	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
7th November 2026 20:44	LOT 76 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Kevin I-ZA-25-GPU-2911 -SIRE:9079. KEVIN. 36TH FINAL AFRIKAPRO 2025.———–Dam 7881/21. Kevin hen described by the breeder as a winner and one of the loft’s best racing pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	mike	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
7th November 2026 20:24	LOT 10 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Dr. de Weerd II-BE-25-6087179 -SAME BRED SOLD FOR R150 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON——–SAME BRED AS SIRE OF AFRIKAPRO FINAL RACE WINNER 2026———–SIRE: AU-23-48267 “Freak Show”. Superstar in AFRIKAPRO 2024. 1.Blue Jacket winner. 2.Brown Jacket winner. 6. Final winner 609km with 1728 birds in the race.SOLD FOR CLOSE TO 1 MILLION RAND ON PIPA 2024. Co-winner 19.Black Jacket winner best fancier. Bred from original O&L De Vries hen & half sister to -Copperhead. 1.Ace Pattaya int OLR 2020. -Nestmate Copperhead- 12. Ace Pattaya OLR. 33. Final Pattaya OLR.————DAM:ZA 22 J&B 401 HEN. DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS. SOLD FOR R178 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON.-FULL SISTER TO ARROW WHO BRED DINOKENG MAIN RACE WINNER AND ACE BIRD (BLUE MOON – WEBSTER LOFTS) DAUGHTER -23 499 – 4TH BLUE JACKET AFRIKA PRO 2024 “AIRFORCE 2” SOLD FOR 7400 EUROS ON PIPA (R140 000.00)——DAUGHTER TO ABL 168 SOLD FOR R242 000.00 AND DAM TO 2ND BLUE JACKET AFRIKAPRO 2025 “UNTOUCHABLE”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	magicman11	R32,500	Current bid: R32,500
7th November 2026 19:35	ZZ..LOT 167 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Herbots Family/Pigeon Palace-ZA-25-TPA-7258 -SAME BRED AS 2nd Grand Averages / Ace Pigeon SAIPR Winter Loft 2026. This pigeon comes from a proven family packed with top One Loft Race and Ace Pigeon performances. Closely related to the exceptional “LARA”, the record-breaking AfrikaPro 2025 performer who won the Blue Jacket Ace Overall, Brown Jacket Long Distance Ace and finished 3rd in the Final Race. “Lara” was later sold for €112,000. Also closely related to “FIERO” – 2nd Final AfrikaPro 2026, as well as a 10th Endurance Race Final, Victoria Falls World Challenge 2026 performer.——————SIRE – JWDK-24-4002 Pigeon Palace – Dark Check A superbly bred cock from an outstanding Pigeon Palace Kittel pairing, with brothers and sisters already proving themselves as excellent breeders. His sire, NL-17-1848806 “Special Kittel”, was acquired from Derek Walsh and became a foundation Kittel breeder at Pigeon Palace. He is a sire to top racers, while his descendants are producing Ace pigeons at the highest level in South Africa. His dam, IHU-17-S003395 “95 Hen”, is described as a massive breeder of winners. Purchased from Derek Walsh, her offspring have developed into outstanding producers of Ace pigeons in South Africa. The pedigree contains elite Dirk van den Bulck / Kittel genetics through “Supersprint Kittel,” “Unicum Kittel,” “Kittel Bolt” and “National Di Caprio.” A sire bred specifically from a family recognised for producing speed, Ace pigeons and top-class breeders generation after generation.———–DAM – ZA-18-82390 H “ROOI MIRAGE” – Pigeon Palace An outstanding racing and breeding hen from the highly successful Mirage / Golden TT / Twilight family. “Rooi Mirage” was herself a winner over 700 km at approximately 1,800 m/min and is a sibling to a 2019 SANPO Gold Medal All-Round winner. She is closely connected to several major performers. Her half-sister “Super Twilight” is the dam of “FIERO” – 2nd Final AfrikaPro 2026, while another half-sister produced the 10th Endurance Final, Victoria Falls World Challenge 2026 performer. The family also connects directly to “Mienke” and the outstanding “LARA.” Her sire, ZA-12-46064 “Mirage,” was a 3× winner and Gauteng Combine winner, and is a half-brother to “Concorde,” a SANPO Gold Medal winner. He is a son of the famous “Golden TT,” herself a SANPO medal winner and proven producer of exceptional pigeons. Her dam, ZAD-14-06223 “Roomy Twilight,” was a Union and Combine winner by five minutes from Noupoort over 700 km, proving herself over the longer distances. She also became an exceptional breeder, producing two Gauteng Combine winners and a SANPO Gold Medal All-Round winner in 2019.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	rileymichael110gmail-com	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000
7th November 2026 18:29	LOT 27 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-TNT Elite Centre-ZA-25-GPU-2577 -Same bred as ZA-23-14993 “ENIGMA”. Absolutley star studded pedigree. 2. AFRIKAPRO Final 2024. 601 km 1092 mpm 37°c (Hardest Race in Afrikapro’s History). 2.Blue Jacket AFRIKAPRO 2024. 1. Brown Jacket AFRIKAPRO 2024. Enigma played a pivotal role in Tnt Elite Centre’s 2nd Black Jacket standings 2024.————–SIRE:ZA 21 DIAS 855. WEBSTER LOFTS. SIRE TO “ENIGMA” 1ST BROWN JACKET , 2ND BLUE JACKET AFRIKAPRO 2024.————DAM:ZA 21 GPU 7455. GRAND DAUGHTER TO FAMOUS “JOKO”. 7455 IS DAM TO “ENIGMA” 1ST BROWN JACKET , 2ND BLUE JACKET AFRIKAPRO 2024.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	lmg	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
7th November 2026 17:33	.LOT 4 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Bevermann-Huenten-R.A.M. Annandale-DV-25-07274-592 -SIRE: ZA-ABL-24-1357 V — “DI STAR” A blue bar pied cock bred by Alwyn Bester, combining the Kittel Bolt and Golden Jewel bloodlines. His sire, ZA-ABL-23-944, is a full brother to “Five Star,” the AfrikaPro Green Jacket winner, and comes from a family credited with Dinokeng OLR Grand Average and GPU honours. His dam, “Lady Di Caprio,” brings together Leo Heremans’ renowned Di Caprio and Olympiade 003 lines. A pedigree rich in racing performance and proven breeding influence.———– DAM: ZA-BPFD-24-2711 — Full Sister to “Marius” Bred by R.A.M. Annandale from “2065” and “2970,” this hen represents a family with an extensive record of federation winners and ace pigeons. Her pedigree combines Koos Botha breeding with the R150K pair of Gavin Rous and J.M. Nel, whose descendants are credited with 100 top-ten BPF Federation prizes. The family’s recorded achievements include first places at AfrikaPro Race 8, Dinokeng HS3 in 2024, Brown Jacket Race 8 and BPF Federation short distance in 2025.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	louis12345	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
7th November 2026 17:31	ZZ..LOT 123 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Botha Loft & Rob B (Singles)-ZA-25-CRU-4156 -SIRE:00687 ZA 15.SIRE BRED WINNERS BROTHERS AND SISTER ALSO BRED WINNERS BRED BARAZALONA WINNER DINOKENG 2015 FOR WILLIE JONKER BROTHER BRED DINOKENG MAIN RACE WINNER 2016 WILLIE JONKER.————-DAM:06616 ZA 15 BCP Du Preez&Deetlefs BOUGHT FROM DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS. BRED “FURIOUS”, 2019 DINOKENG, BLOEMFONTEIN 1 WINNER. BRED 82529/18 UNION WINNER,1ST OVERALL POINTS AND COEF., 1ST YB POINTS AND COEF., 1ST SHORT COEF., 2ND MIDDLE COEF. IN CRUSADERS. 2ND YB 19′ PWDC. 24509/17 VILLIERIA 18′ BS WINNER R45K. 1240/21 UNION WINNER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	louis12345	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
7th November 2026 17:29	ZZ..LOT 173 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Jaco&Danie/Exclusive Pigeon Paradise-ZA-25-JKL-26 -Sire: 9264 ZA 24 GPU Bred for stock from the best Sablon bloodlines. This cock is a full brother to “JBM’s Girl,” “Jimmy’s Boy,” and “Hettie’s Gold.” A powerful breeding prospect carrying strong Sablon genetics and excellent family potential.———–Dam: 598 ZA BOTHA 24 F Botha Blue Bar Pied Hen. Full brother and sistermating of “Five Star” 691/22, the Afrikapro Green Jacket champion for Alwyn Bester, who won R1 000 000. Bred from the strains of Dirk van den Bulck’s “Kittel’s” and the “810” Sablon Cock.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	louis12345	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
7th November 2026 17:28	.LOT 5 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Botha Loft & Rob A-ZA-25-CRU DERBY-3181 -SIRE:1782 CRU 21.ALWYN BESTER F/BRO. TO TURBO KITTEL OF DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS – SOLD R105 000. BEST BIRD IN SOUTH AFRICA. 8X SANPO MEDAL WINNER. 6X GOLD, 1X SILVER AND 1X BRONZE. 5X WINNER. BEST BIRD UNION. BEST YB UNION AND M.DIST. BIRD UNION. F/BROTHER 9059/20-R247000,9060/20-R173 000. 32/23, 2ND UNION KROONSTAD BABY RACE—————-DAM:411 ABL 21 RED ALWYN BESTER BOUGHT FOR STOCK FROM ALWYN BESTER. BRED BOTHA 44/23, WON ALL x4 PWDU BABY RACES. 3RD WINBURG, 8TH HANOVER AND 10TH SMITHFIELD. 55/22, UNION WINNER MIDDELBURG BY 24MIN, 2ND UNION THREE SISTERS. 129/23 UNION WINNER MIDDELBURG. 36/23 UNION WINNER THREE SISTERS. 312/24 2ND UNION NOUPOORT.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	louis12345	R4,000	Current bid: R4,000
7th November 2026 16:36	ZZ..LOT 118 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Webster Lofts-ZA-25-DIAZ-258 -SIRE: ZA-20-OP-5788 “Lamprecht Cock”. Webster stock cock, sire of High For This, 7th Diaz 2024 final and 8th points Ace. Also sire of Razor Sharp, 20th velocity Ace, and Pathfinder, 3rd points Ace at Diaz in 2023.————- DAM: ZA-20-DIAS-360 “Newsbreaker”. Ninth Diaz Ace and 29th final in 2021. Dam of Gamebreaker Boss, 4th AfrikaPro Green Jacket, and two 440 km special-race winners. Daughter of Rockhot and Breaking News.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	wes16662830	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
7th November 2026 16:11	ZZ..LOT 160 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Three Strand Racing-ZA-25-BPFD-5138 -SIRE: ZA-21-BPFD-902 “Young Junior”. Federation winner and sire of the BPF Combine Long Distance Ace 2025. Son of Junior, sire of 11 Federation winners, and BPFD 2991.———- DAM: ZA-17-TRPF-1826 “Pigeon Palace”. Winning Bosua-Grondelaer hen, dam of the BPF Combine Long Distance Ace 2025. Daughter of Lot 7 and foundation hen 57.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	tristan	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
7th November 2026 15:52	LOT 48 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Loft Einkamerer-ZA-25-LOFT EINKAMERER-175 -5TH RACE 9 EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE: ZA 22 0236 “PIZZARO FAVORITE” A blue bar Einkamerer cock combining Jan Hooymans’ celebrated Harry family with Scheele breeding. Bred from NL 16 1663446 “Pizzal”, whose parents are “Brother Harry” and a daughter of “Harry”, paired to NL 13 1395514 “Balloneke”. His pedigree brings together the influential Jonge Bliksem, Dirkje, Superboy and Daughter 666 bloodlines—a strong breeding foundation with depth in internationally recognised racing families.———- DAM: EIN 23 170 “APPLE 2 13811” A blue bar Einkamerer hen bred from SRPV 18 0103 “Black Knight 103” and NL 13 1395456 “Apple 2”. “Apple 2” is a Jan Hooymans hen credited with two top-10 hotspot finishes at the Million Dollar race, bred from “Brother Harry” and “Daughter Cornelis”. This mating combines the Einkamerer one-loft racing family with Hooymans breeding, reinforcing the Harry, Jonge Bliksem and Dirkje influence found on the sire’s side.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	gertswart	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
7th November 2026 15:31	LOT 40 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Pigeon Palace I-ZA-25-TPA-12441 -2ND RACE 7 EQUAL WINNER—-20TH RACE 3—–SIRE: BELG 20 6243189 “KATALIS NEW KIM”. KAASBOER. BROTHER X NIECE NEW KIM BOUGHT FROM PIPA. INBRED BROTHER AND NIECE TO 1ST NAT ACE BIRD “NEW KIM”. FATHER IS FULL BROTHER TO NEW KIM.———DAM:ZA-17-28777 H ‘Super 777′ van Loon.Superbreeding hen !!! Gold medal Ace PWDU old birds ’19. 3rd Ace short distance & 7th best Yearling union 18. 28777 aka the ’10 min pair hen’. Dam to great champions like 3047/21 winner by 10 minutes! The 10 minute pair bred more than 10 winners to date!SEE PEDIGREE!!!	rolien-kingoutlook-com	R4,500	Current bid: R4,500
7th November 2026 14:13	LOT 11 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Jelle Jellema I-NL-25-1598683 -SIRE: ZA-23-ODRA-12897 “Herman Bohm”. Kittel-family cock linked in the pedigree to Winners Flight OLR performance; bred from Eric Cantona and the GJT Smuts family.———— DAM: NL-23-9028225 “Inbred Silke”. Jelle Jellema hen from Son Silke and Daughter Lars, concentrating Silke and established Jellema distance breeding.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	agh-pigeons	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
7th November 2026 12:59	LOT 50 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Molteno Loft & Alwyn Bester-ZA-25-ABL-2216 —-HALF SIBLING TO “PALACE PRINCE” SIRE TO “LARA” AND “FIERO”. SUPER RACERS AFRIKAPRO 2025. “LARA” SOLD ON PIPA FOR 112 000.00 EUROS.——-Full sibling to FIVE STAR (GREEN JACKET WINNER 2023 WINNING $50 000.00) and many more winners.————–SIRE: 63390 GB 18 V. Alias “KITTEL BOLT” Strain: Dirk Van Den Bulck Color: Red Pied The winning striking rate of 63390 with his click hen 82930 is 80%. Here are just a few of their children: ZA ABL 531 2021 “Dynasty”Grand Averages Winner Dinokeng OLR 2022 1st ZA ABL 343 2021, PWDU winner Verkeerdevlei 2022 ZA ABL 344 2021, R100 000 Crusaders breeder stakes winner 2022 ———— DAM: 82930 ZA 18. One of my favourite hens in the breeding loft. Bred from R80 000 son to direct daughter of “810”Sablon cock.. DIRECT DAUGHTER OF FAMOUS “JBM’S GIRL”. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!	obot	R36,000	Current bid: R36,000
7th November 2026 12:59	LOT 50 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Molteno Loft & Alwyn Bester-ZA-25-ABL-2216 —-HALF SIBLING TO “PALACE PRINCE” SIRE TO “LARA” AND “FIERO”. SUPER RACERS AFRIKAPRO 2025. “LARA” SOLD ON PIPA FOR 112 000.00 EUROS.——-Full sibling to FIVE STAR (GREEN JACKET WINNER 2023 WINNING $50 000.00) and many more winners.————–SIRE: 63390 GB 18 V. Alias “KITTEL BOLT” Strain: Dirk Van Den Bulck Color: Red Pied The winning striking rate of 63390 with his click hen 82930 is 80%. Here are just a few of their children: ZA ABL 531 2021 “Dynasty”Grand Averages Winner Dinokeng OLR 2022 1st ZA ABL 343 2021, PWDU winner Verkeerdevlei 2022 ZA ABL 344 2021, R100 000 Crusaders breeder stakes winner 2022 ———— DAM: 82930 ZA 18. One of my favourite hens in the breeding loft. Bred from R80 000 son to direct daughter of “810”Sablon cock.. DIRECT DAUGHTER OF FAMOUS “JBM’S GIRL”. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R35,000	Current bid: R36,000
7th November 2026 12:59	LOT 50 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Molteno Loft & Alwyn Bester-ZA-25-ABL-2216 —-HALF SIBLING TO “PALACE PRINCE” SIRE TO “LARA” AND “FIERO”. SUPER RACERS AFRIKAPRO 2025. “LARA” SOLD ON PIPA FOR 112 000.00 EUROS.——-Full sibling to FIVE STAR (GREEN JACKET WINNER 2023 WINNING $50 000.00) and many more winners.————–SIRE: 63390 GB 18 V. Alias “KITTEL BOLT” Strain: Dirk Van Den Bulck Color: Red Pied The winning striking rate of 63390 with his click hen 82930 is 80%. Here are just a few of their children: ZA ABL 531 2021 “Dynasty”Grand Averages Winner Dinokeng OLR 2022 1st ZA ABL 343 2021, PWDU winner Verkeerdevlei 2022 ZA ABL 344 2021, R100 000 Crusaders breeder stakes winner 2022 ———— DAM: 82930 ZA 18. One of my favourite hens in the breeding loft. Bred from R80 000 son to direct daughter of “810”Sablon cock.. DIRECT DAUGHTER OF FAMOUS “JBM’S GIRL”. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!	obot	R34,000	Current bid: R36,000
7th November 2026 12:59	LOT 50 AFRIKAPRO AUCTION 3-Molteno Loft & Alwyn Bester-ZA-25-ABL-2216 —-HALF SIBLING TO “PALACE PRINCE” SIRE TO “LARA” AND “FIERO”. SUPER RACERS AFRIKAPRO 2025. “LARA” SOLD ON PIPA FOR 112 000.00 EUROS.——-Full sibling to FIVE STAR (GREEN JACKET WINNER 2023 WINNING $50 000.00) and many more winners.————–SIRE: 63390 GB 18 V. Alias “KITTEL BOLT” Strain: Dirk Van Den Bulck Color: Red Pied The winning striking rate of 63390 with his click hen 82930 is 80%. Here are just a few of their children: ZA ABL 531 2021 “Dynasty”Grand Averages Winner Dinokeng OLR 2022 1st ZA ABL 343 2021, PWDU winner Verkeerdevlei 2022 ZA ABL 344 2021, R100 000 Crusaders breeder stakes winner 2022 ———— DAM: 82930 ZA 18. One of my favourite hens in the breeding loft. Bred from R80 000 son to direct daughter of “810”Sablon cock.. DIRECT DAUGHTER OF FAMOUS “JBM’S GIRL”. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R33,000	Current bid: R36,000

LOT 10 MID AUGUST – NL 17 1625980 – “KARCI” Dam to Lena 8th NPO Troyes 7.720p Dam to Maggy 5th Nat Ace One Day Long Distance 2020 .Dam to BORD 4710/23 1st Race 3 Diaz Baby Series 2023 11656mpm .Heremans-Ceusters Bloodline Orig Beute & Hansen.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

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.LOT 8 MID AUGUST – ZA 18 85074 -SIRE: NO RING BRAVEHEART. THIS IS A FULL BROTHER TO SUPER PERFORMERS.————-DAM:ZA 17 37449. FULL SISTER TO 37802 WHO SCORED 9 TIMES TOP 50 PRETORIA UNION.SEE PEDIGREE!!!