LOT 18 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 17 SRSPV 0744 -HALF SIBLING SOLD FOR R15000.00 ON TOPPIGEON—–SIRE: NWPF 14 K 49153. “EDWARD” BRED OUT OF WORLD CLASS PIGEONS HOUBEN , HOOYMANS AND KOOPMAN.———-Dam:SRSPVD 16 0376 “Double Grace” Clausing / Houben / Hooymans / Koopman. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

Name: LOT 18 FAAN DE BEER - ZA 17 SRSPV 0744 -HALF SIBLING SOLD FOR R15000.00 ON TOPPIGEON—–SIRE: NWPF 14 K 49153. “EDWARD” BRED OUT OF WORLD CLASS PIGEONS HOUBEN , HOOYMANS AND KOOPMAN.———-Dam:SRSPVD 16 0376 “Double Grace” Clausing / Houben / Hooymans / Koopman. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
SKU: 42095
Availability: InStock

Winning Bid: R3,000

Item condition: New

Category: ACTIVE AUCTION - FAAN DE BEER - FROM 22 MAY TO SUNDAY 26 MAY 2024 (ENDS FROM 14:45)

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Highest bidder was: Wiehann Vermeulen

Date	Bid	User	Auto
26th May 2024 15:34	R3,000	Wiehann Vermeulen
26th May 2024 15:34	R2,500	DMG	Auto
24th May 2024 13:37	R1,000	DMG
22nd May 2024 13:43	Auction started

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16th August 2026 15:45	LOT 10 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 TURFPET 13337 -Bred for stock, Brother x Sister mating. Sire, SON SUPER 652, superbreeder, son of the renowned TOM LOCK 0652. Dam, LITTLE STAR, strong TOM LOCK hen, also bred from the 0652 family. Both SON SUPER 652 & LITTLE STAR brother and sister to ZA 2533 ’20 “ZULU”, sire of AMIRA for Alwyn Bester. AMIRA 1st SANPO Overall Distances (2,001+ pigeons) in 2024, 2nd Middle Distance, 3rd Short Distance, 2nd FCI SANPO Overall, with 4 Unions wins and 9 club wins.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	bennie	R4,000	Current bid: R4,000
16th August 2026 15:41	LOT 21 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9098 -is bred from an exciting combination of proven OLR performance and elite Van den Bulck genetics. Sire, PILOT EYE, 4th ACE pigeon at Dinokeng OLR 2020 & also 8th Barzalona Race from Gariep Dam (624km) 2020. PILOT EYE descends from the famous ROCKY, son to JBM’s GIRL, SABLON 810 genetics. Dam, ZA ABL 1478 ’24, full siser to TURBO KITTEL’s dam and originates directly from one of the finest Van den Bulck families available. Her sire GB 63384 ’18 V, is the grandsire of SA PWDU 9849 ’20, the World Allround Best Pigeon 2021 and 6-time SANPO Gold Medal winner.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	annetjie	R4,001	Current bid: R4,001
16th August 2026 15:38	LOT 21 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9098 -is bred from an exciting combination of proven OLR performance and elite Van den Bulck genetics. Sire, PILOT EYE, 4th ACE pigeon at Dinokeng OLR 2020 & also 8th Barzalona Race from Gariep Dam (624km) 2020. PILOT EYE descends from the famous ROCKY, son to JBM’s GIRL, SABLON 810 genetics. Dam, ZA ABL 1478 ’24, full siser to TURBO KITTEL’s dam and originates directly from one of the finest Van den Bulck families available. Her sire GB 63384 ’18 V, is the grandsire of SA PWDU 9849 ’20, the World Allround Best Pigeon 2021 and 6-time SANPO Gold Medal winner.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	antjieduplessis26gmail-com	R3,501	Current bid: R4,001
16th August 2026 15:38	.LOT 8 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5315 – bred from JB X HG LAST SON mated to SPECIAL DOUBLE R80 000. SABLON 810 x TOM LOCK genetics. Proven One Loft Racing genetics combined with heavlily linebred TOM LOCK / R80 000 blood.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	bredenkamp-afgmail-com	R2,000	Winning Bid: R2,000
16th August 2026 15:37	LOT 17 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5348 -bred from KITTEL / Van den Bulck with proven 810 SABLON long-distance / OLR family genetics. Sire, 710 CHANTEL, bred from DANIE’s SUPER V DEN BULCK, a full brother to ZA ABL 167 ’21, which bred TURBO KITTEL, while the dam is CHANTEL, bred by Marcel Sangers and a double g/daughter of BROTHER GOEDE RODE, OLYMPIC ROSITA&GOLDEN LEO 40000. Dam, MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie winner at Dinokeng OLR in 2021. She is mother to GALAXY STAR, 2nd in the Carnival OLR Summer Final 2023, with only three pigeons clocked on the day.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	antjieduplessis26gmail-com	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
16th August 2026 15:35	LOT 25 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5210 -bred brom SABLON 810 x TOM LOCK x KITTEL / VAN DEN BULCK genetics. Sire, STILNOX DU PLESSIS, brother to DREAM, bred from JIMMY’S BOY x HETTIES GOLD. DREAM produced several winning pigeons, including a Vic Falls HS winner and SONSKYN OLR Final Race winner. Dam, 9983 is a particularly strong hen. She is bred from PILOT EYE x CHANTEL, achieving the following in 2024: 4th Combined Overall GPU, 10th Combined Middle Distance, 7th YB Middle Distance, 2nd Combined Long Distance, 2nd OB Long Distance.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	adischlebuschgmail-com	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
16th August 2026 15:20	LOT 21 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9098 -is bred from an exciting combination of proven OLR performance and elite Van den Bulck genetics. Sire, PILOT EYE, 4th ACE pigeon at Dinokeng OLR 2020 & also 8th Barzalona Race from Gariep Dam (624km) 2020. PILOT EYE descends from the famous ROCKY, son to JBM’s GIRL, SABLON 810 genetics. Dam, ZA ABL 1478 ’24, full siser to TURBO KITTEL’s dam and originates directly from one of the finest Van den Bulck families available. Her sire GB 63384 ’18 V, is the grandsire of SA PWDU 9849 ’20, the World Allround Best Pigeon 2021 and 6-time SANPO Gold Medal winner.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	huyser	R3,001	Current bid: R4,001
16th August 2026 14:53	LOT 21 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9098 -is bred from an exciting combination of proven OLR performance and elite Van den Bulck genetics. Sire, PILOT EYE, 4th ACE pigeon at Dinokeng OLR 2020 & also 8th Barzalona Race from Gariep Dam (624km) 2020. PILOT EYE descends from the famous ROCKY, son to JBM’s GIRL, SABLON 810 genetics. Dam, ZA ABL 1478 ’24, full siser to TURBO KITTEL’s dam and originates directly from one of the finest Van den Bulck families available. Her sire GB 63384 ’18 V, is the grandsire of SA PWDU 9849 ’20, the World Allround Best Pigeon 2021 and 6-time SANPO Gold Medal winner.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	jacquesjvr	R2,501	Current bid: R4,001
16th August 2026 14:47	LOT 15 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5397 -SIRE:3465 ZA 22 GPU.Alias “WHITAKER” Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar ZA GPU 3465 ’22 “WHITAKER” full brother to DREAM, who bred ZA BPF/D 0694 ’18 LINDIE equal final winner Sonskyn OLR 2019, 663km vel. 1186, 50th Ace Bird. DREAM bred ZA HPT 3523 ’19 CARLADA equal winner hotspot 3, Victoria Falls World Challenge Pigeon Race 2020, winning $4000. DREAM bred ZA NKHP 5655 ’20 VICTORIA winner of Ninth Race Penultimate at Diaz One Loft 2021, 197km, vel. 1455 m/min. DREAM is grandmother to ZA BPF 934 ’21 MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner.————DAM:7963 ZA 22 HPT .Alias “APPLESTAR 10150” Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar ZA HPT 7963 ’22 bred from our best Tom Lock’s. Sire, ZA 10150 ’16 bred HOPE, 18th place, Hotspot 2, Central Provincial Lofts 2020, 320km, vel. 1330 m/min. ZA 10150 ’16 bred VICTORIA Winner of Nineth Race Penultimate at Diaz One Loft 2021, 197km, vel. 1455 m/min. VICTORIA’S nestmate sister STORMKIND, dam to ZA SANPO 13142 ’22 JEANNIE final equal winner Dinokeng One Loft Race 2023 for Gerber & Koutsoudis..SEE PEDIGREE!!!	silverbacks	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
16th August 2026 14:46	.LOT 8 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5315 – bred from JB X HG LAST SON mated to SPECIAL DOUBLE R80 000. SABLON 810 x TOM LOCK genetics. Proven One Loft Racing genetics combined with heavlily linebred TOM LOCK / R80 000 blood.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	silverbacks	R1,500	Winning Bid: R2,000
16th August 2026 14:35	.LOT 4 GERRIE RADEMEYER “ROXY LOFTS” – ZA 24 GAMTOOS 723 -SIRE:5977 ZA CYRL 20.SPRITZY BLOU BUL BRED FOR STOCK.BOUGHT FROM MUNA ZIETSMAN.——————DAM:376383 ZA 20 “INBRED POOITJIE” BB BRED FOR STOCK.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	cilecarelse	R1,000	Winning Bid: R1,000
16th August 2026 14:32	LOT 20 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 OERF 17872 -Bred for stock, Brother x Sister mating. Sire, SON SUPER 652, superbreeder, son of the renowned TOM LOCK 0652. Dam, LITTLE STAR, strong TOM LOCK hen, also bred from the 0652 family. Both SON SUPER 652 & LITTLE STAR brother and sister to ZA 2533 ’20 “ZULU”, sire of AMIRA for Alwyn Bester. AMIRA 1st SANPO Overall Distances (2,001+ pigeons) in 2024, 2nd Middle Distance, 3rd Short Distance, 2nd FCI SANPO Overall, with 4 Unions wins and 9 club wins.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	janbarnard04gmail-com	R4,000	Current bid: R4,000
16th August 2026 14:28	.LOT 7 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5394 – super KITTEL / Van den Bulck Genetics mated to super SABLON 810 Genetics. This mating is currently doing very well for us, especially on the Short and Middle Distances..SEE PEDIGREE!!!	jacquesjvr	R1,500	Winning Bid: R1,500
16th August 2026 14:26	.LOT 1 KENTRIDGE – ZA-24-KPU-2325 -This cock is a half-brother of “SHEWASDU 2 WIN” – AFRIKAPRO GREEN JACKET WINNER 2024 Directly out of “BAKBEEN’ our 1st Ace Pigeon Sprints in the Union. This cock is also a great breeder and father to 2 super racers during 2023. The mother is is “GOLD MEDAL LASS” our SANPO Gold Medal Winner Short Distance in Cat B (501 to 2000pigeons) in 2024. She is an EXTRA SUPER racer twice beating the opposition by more than 2 minutes clear on the short distances – both these wins when the wind direction was not in her favour! She is also he half-sister of “DUAL PURPOSE” – FATHER of AFRIKAPRO FINAL RACE WINNER 2025!!!SEE PEDIGREE!!!	annetjie	R3,500	Winning Bid: R3,500
16th August 2026 14:18	.LOT 6 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5440 -Sire: ZA ABL 1448 ‘24 – “LAST SON SUPER TT” A direct son of the legendary “SUPER TT” (ZA 06121 ‘15) – one of the most proven breeders in South Africa. This line is built on the powerful Golden TT × Little Tom foundation, responsible for multiple winners and top performers. The family has already produced elite racers, including Best Middle Distance performers and birds competing at the highest national level. A tightly bred genetic package of consistency, class, and proven breeding power.————DAM:6715 ZA 21 NKHPT.Alias “DAUGHTER JBM’s GIRL” Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar ZA NKHPT 6715 ’21 DAUGHTER JBM’S GIRL direct daughter to BOYTJIE x JBM’s GIRL. Full sister to ROCKY who bred ZA BPF/D 6986 ’19 PILOT EYE 4th ACE bird OLR Dinokeng 2020 and 8th Barzalona race, Gariep Dam, 624km, 985 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 934 ’21 MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner at OLR Dinokeng 2021, Barzalona race, Hanover, 1052 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 992 .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	lambie-lofts	R4,000	Winning Bid: R4,000
16th August 2026 14:18	.LOT 6 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5440 -Sire: ZA ABL 1448 ‘24 – “LAST SON SUPER TT” A direct son of the legendary “SUPER TT” (ZA 06121 ‘15) – one of the most proven breeders in South Africa. This line is built on the powerful Golden TT × Little Tom foundation, responsible for multiple winners and top performers. The family has already produced elite racers, including Best Middle Distance performers and birds competing at the highest national level. A tightly bred genetic package of consistency, class, and proven breeding power.————DAM:6715 ZA 21 NKHPT.Alias “DAUGHTER JBM’s GIRL” Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar ZA NKHPT 6715 ’21 DAUGHTER JBM’S GIRL direct daughter to BOYTJIE x JBM’s GIRL. Full sister to ROCKY who bred ZA BPF/D 6986 ’19 PILOT EYE 4th ACE bird OLR Dinokeng 2020 and 8th Barzalona race, Gariep Dam, 624km, 985 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 934 ’21 MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner at OLR Dinokeng 2021, Barzalona race, Hanover, 1052 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 992 .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	hamner	R3,500	Winning Bid: R4,000
16th August 2026 14:18	.LOT 6 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5440 -Sire: ZA ABL 1448 ‘24 – “LAST SON SUPER TT” A direct son of the legendary “SUPER TT” (ZA 06121 ‘15) – one of the most proven breeders in South Africa. This line is built on the powerful Golden TT × Little Tom foundation, responsible for multiple winners and top performers. The family has already produced elite racers, including Best Middle Distance performers and birds competing at the highest national level. A tightly bred genetic package of consistency, class, and proven breeding power.————DAM:6715 ZA 21 NKHPT.Alias “DAUGHTER JBM’s GIRL” Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar ZA NKHPT 6715 ’21 DAUGHTER JBM’S GIRL direct daughter to BOYTJIE x JBM’s GIRL. Full sister to ROCKY who bred ZA BPF/D 6986 ’19 PILOT EYE 4th ACE bird OLR Dinokeng 2020 and 8th Barzalona race, Gariep Dam, 624km, 985 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 934 ’21 MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner at OLR Dinokeng 2021, Barzalona race, Hanover, 1052 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 992 .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	hamner	R2,500	Winning Bid: R4,000
16th August 2026 14:18	.LOT 6 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5440 -Sire: ZA ABL 1448 ‘24 – “LAST SON SUPER TT” A direct son of the legendary “SUPER TT” (ZA 06121 ‘15) – one of the most proven breeders in South Africa. This line is built on the powerful Golden TT × Little Tom foundation, responsible for multiple winners and top performers. The family has already produced elite racers, including Best Middle Distance performers and birds competing at the highest national level. A tightly bred genetic package of consistency, class, and proven breeding power.————DAM:6715 ZA 21 NKHPT.Alias “DAUGHTER JBM’s GIRL” Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar ZA NKHPT 6715 ’21 DAUGHTER JBM’S GIRL direct daughter to BOYTJIE x JBM’s GIRL. Full sister to ROCKY who bred ZA BPF/D 6986 ’19 PILOT EYE 4th ACE bird OLR Dinokeng 2020 and 8th Barzalona race, Gariep Dam, 624km, 985 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 934 ’21 MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner at OLR Dinokeng 2021, Barzalona race, Hanover, 1052 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 992 .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	lambie-lofts	R3,000	Winning Bid: R4,000
16th August 2026 14:14	LOT 33 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 OERF 17876 -SIRE: 5486 ZA 25 GPU .Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Red Check Pied Bred for stock to the best Kittel pair in SA! DIE GYS COCK full brother to GB 63384 ’18 and GB 63390 ’18, Super breeders for Alwyn Bester. ZA ABL1478 ’24 full sister to ZA ABL 167 ’20 (TURBO KITTEL’s dam) & ZA ABL 168 ’20 (Super breeder, bred z x winners), bred by Alwyn Bester, super breeders for Du Preez & Deetlefs. Superb mating!!———-DAM:9265 ZA 24 GPU .Alias “LAST DTR CHANTEL” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar Bred for stock. Sire, DANIE’s SUPER V DEN BULCK, full brother to ZA ABL 167 ’21 for DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS that bred 8 X SANPO medal winner, 6 GOLD, 1 SILWER AND 1 BRONZE – TURBO KITTEL, World Allround Best Bird 2021. Dam, CHANTEL bred by Marcel Sangers. Double granddaughter from BROTHER GOEDE RODE, OLYMPIC ROSITA, .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	bennie	R3,500	Current bid: R3,500
16th August 2026 14:07	.LOT 7 GERRIE RADEMEYER “ROXY LOFTS” – ZA 22 OP 391 -SIRE:1386 ZA CYRILS 16.”BLUE WHITE EYE”.A Langerman Janssen.————-DAM:6803 MSHS 17 “SUPER STAR DGHT” BBWF A Langerman Janssen.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	bennie	R1,000	Winning Bid: R1,000

LOT 18 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 17 SRSPV 0744 -HALF SIBLING SOLD FOR R15000.00 ON TOPPIGEON—–SIRE: NWPF 14 K 49153. “EDWARD” BRED OUT OF WORLD CLASS PIGEONS HOUBEN , HOOYMANS AND KOOPMAN.———-Dam:SRSPVD 16 0376 “Double Grace” Clausing / Houben / Hooymans / Koopman. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

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LOT 15 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 20 SRSP 812 -SIRE:962 SRSPV 20 “GINSTAR”. EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT SON TO SUPERBREEDER “STARLEADER”. —————DAM:1017 SRPV 19 “PIKARO”. EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT GRAND DAUGHTER TO “PIZZARO”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

.LOT 3 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 20 SRSP 847 —SIRE:1570 SRPV 18 “GRADU”. EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT GRANDSON TO “APPLE 2” AND “STARLEADER”.————DAM:3266 NWPF 19 “LEYAM”. EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT DAUGHTER TO SUPERBREEDER “LIAM”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

.LOT 5 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 19 SRPV 1014 -SIRE: 134 SANPO 17 “PIZZARO 2”. EINKAMERER. THIS COCK IS BRED OUT OF A CLICK PAIR “PIZZARO” AND “ROSIE”.———DAM:0180 SRSPVD 16 “KAIA”. EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT GRAND DAUGHTER TO “ABSOLUTE STAR”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

LOT 11 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 19 SRPV 1075 -SIRE:2615 NWPFK 14 “STEPHEN”. EINKAMERER/CLAUSING/HOUBEN. THIS IS A DIRECT GRANDSON TO “ZIKO JNR”.—————-DAM:0515 SRSPVD 16 “ELSA”. EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT DAUGHTER TO “STARLEADER”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

LOT 17 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 19 164756 -SIRE:0363 SRSPVD 16 “THEO” . EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT GRANDSON TO SUPERBREEDER “ABSOLUTE STAR”.———–DAM:NWPF 15 K 4568. EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT GRAND DAUGHTER TO SUPER BREEDER ABSOLUTE STAR”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

.LOT 7 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 19 SRPV 1011 -SIRE: ZA 14 NWPF 2672 “HERON”. EINKAMERER / HOUBEN / CLAUSING. ——DAM: NL 13 1395442 “STARLEADER”. HOOYMANS / KOOPMAN / VANDENABEELE. THIS HEN IS BRED FROM “SON DAVINCI” AND “SISTER HARRY” . SEE PEDIGREE!!!

.LOT 2 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 20 SRSP 862 -SIRE: 134 SANPO 17 “PIZZARO 2”. EINKAMERER. THIS COCK IS BRED OUT OF A CLICK PAIR “PIZZARO” AND “ROSIE”.———–DAM:0351 SRSPV 16 D “ISLA”. EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT GRAND DAUGHTER TO “ABSOLUTE STAR”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!

LOT 13 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 20 SRSP 861 -SIRE: 134 SANPO 17 “PIZZARO 2”. EINKAMERER. THIS COCK IS BRED OUT OF A CLICK PAIR “PIZZARO” AND “ROSIE”.———–DAM:0351 SRSPV 16 D “ISLA”. EINKAMERER. THIS IS A DIRECT GRAND DAUGHTER TO “ABSOLUTE STAR”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!

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LOT 14 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 20 SRSP 873 – SIRE: 0124 SRSPV 16 D “GALLON” . EINKAMERER. BRED DIRECTLY OUT OF “BALONNEKE”.—–DAM: 0189 SRSPV 16. “BLACK LACE” EINKAMERER. BRED OUT OF “BLACKBIRD” AND “FREEZJE” SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!

.LOT 6 FAAN DE BEER – ZA 18 SRPV 1562 -SIRE:2488 13 NWPF “GINO” EINKAMERER/HOUBEN/CLAUSING. THIS IS A DIRECT GRANDSON TO “ZIKO JNR”.—————–DAM: 0792 SRSPVD 17 “VIOLET”. SHE IS A DIRECT DAUGHTER OF “ABSOLUTE STAR” AND “STARLEADER”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!