.LOT 3 END JUNE – ZA 24 BULLCAT 1496 -SIRE:NL 21 1423147. JO & FLORIAN HENDRIKS. THIS IS A DIRECT GRANDSON TO WORLD FAMOUS “HARRY”.—————-DAM: NL 21 1375021 . BOTH HER SIRE AND DAM ARE GRAND CHILDREN OF “HARRY” JAN HOOYMANS . SEE PEDIGREE!!!

Name: .LOT 3 END JUNE - ZA 24 BULLCAT 1496 -SIRE:NL 21 1423147. JO &amp; FLORIAN HENDRIKS. THIS IS A DIRECT GRANDSON TO WORLD FAMOUS "HARRY".----------------DAM: NL 21 1375021 . BOTH HER SIRE AND DAM ARE GRAND CHILDREN OF “HARRY” JAN HOOYMANS . SEE PEDIGREE!!!
SKU: 42732
Availability: InStock

Winning Bid: R3,000

Item condition: New

Category: ACTIVE AUCTION - END JUNE - FROM 27 JUNE TO SUNDAY 30 JUNE 2024 (ENDS FROM 15:30)

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Highest bidder was: Oscar

Date	Bid	User	Auto
30th June 2024 9:38	R3,000	Oscar
27th June 2024 10:22	Auction started

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27th September 2026 14:47	LOT 31 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Rain’s Pride-ZA 25 207805 -SIRE – ZA 2024 ABL 1470 Bred by Alwyn Bester – Red Cock A quality breeding cock and father to “MONSTER KITTEL”, who achieved 13th Ace Pigeon and 16th Final Carnival Winter 2026. He is bred from “DOUBLE BEST KITTEL” NL 2022 D 8234391, a Bulck/Dehon/Demonseau cock and double grandson of the legendary “BEST KITTEL”, winner of 1st National Ace KBDB Sprint 2017 and 4th National Ace KBDB Sprint 2016.————-DAM – ZA 2023 VPU 1743 “SUPER ACES IN ONE” Bred by Egbert O’Kelly – Blue Hen A proven breeding hen and mother to “MONSTER KITTEL”, winner of 13th Ace Pigeon and 16th Final Carnival Winter 2026. She is a daughter of “HULK” ZA 2014 GPU 11163, winner of 1st GPU Combine Winburg 280 km and father to, among others, 2nd Ace SAIPR Winter 2024 and 4th Hotspot Ace SAIPR 2022. Her dam is “ACES X ACES” ZA 2022 VPU 8451, an Egbert O’Kelly blue white-flight hen and half-sister to 2nd Ace Overall Dinokeng 2024. A strong Egbert O’Kelly performance family, combining proven Combine, SAIPR and Dinokeng Ace bloodlines.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	josefh-strydomgmail-com	R3,500	Current bid: R3,500
27th September 2026 14:45	LOT 45 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Quatro Syndicate-OERF 25 10159 -2ND FINAL RACE ————SIRE – NL 23 9338915 A Stefaans Lambrechts cock who proved himself immediately as a top breeder in his very first year in the stock loft. Owned by Christoph Groene, Germany, he represents quality European breeding genetics and forms the sire side of OERF 25 10159, 2nd Final.——————-DAM – OERF 23 5459 An outstanding 2 × Winner from a strong family of proven racers and breeders. Her sire, ZA 22 41008, is a 4 × Winner and super racer, bred from TRPF 11 17125 “Skraale”, a super breeder, and LIM 15 1961, a Gaddin 5 × Hen × Hooymans × Oswald pigeon that was the only bird on the day in Gauteng from Beaufort West 820 km. Her dam, KUYS 20 213, is a 5 × Winner from Desmet/Janssen/Cattrysse bloodlines, bred from ZA SRF 19 1705 – 5 × Winner and ZA 12 PWF 0072 – Richmond 755 km Winner.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	mike	R4,000	Current bid: R4,000
27th September 2026 14:45	LOT 30 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Spikkels Hokke-OERF 25 14492 -SIRE – 3142 ZA 24 OERF “SON OF UNION WINNER” Jansen / Van Rhijn Kloeck / Lock / Carelly. A proven breeding cock that bred the 4th Carnival Lofts Final 2026 for Spikkels Hokke and also bred 10045, a 3× Winner — 2× Club and 1× Division, achieved two weeks in a row — bred by Pienaar Lofts. His sire, 2263 ZA 15 OERF, was a GPU Union Winner in 2016 as a youngster, winning Cradock 1st Club, 1st Division and 1st Union, and was a 4× winner. The dam line, through 7196 ZA 23 GPU, combines Tom Lock / Carelly and the Golden Carelly Ace Line.—————–DAM – 5787 ZA 23 OERF A Blue Bar hen from the 917 Clausing / Heinselman / Lock combination, raced by Andre Botha. Her sire, 3835 ZA 22 GPU – “917 Clausing”, is a son of the Clausing family and is sire to 3651, 2nd Ace Pigeon 2024. He is also a brother to 1541, a breeder behind many winners, including an 11th-place Thailand Masters Final performer. The dam line through 3260 ZA 22 CYRL combines strong Clausing, Heinselman, Lock and Sablon breeding, including birds recorded as producers of multiple winners.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	lolo	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
27th September 2026 14:44	LOT 25 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Andre & Juan-OERF 25 13805 -3RD FINAL———-SIRE:ZA 19 OERF 3436.Alias “Full Throttle” The best that we can offer from this fantastic family of pigeons.Only started breeding him as he was on loan to a fancier. He sired 9th Ace in the Combine 2023.Sire to 2nd equal drop on race (2) Carnival winter 2025 from 739 p.Sire to 3rd place final Carnival OLR from 630 km 2026.————-DAM:ZA 24 OERF 4484.This hen was bred from the most sought after Locks crossed with the best long distance performers of Ferdi Lubbe.She is dam to 3rd final from 630 km at Carnival OLR winter series 2026.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	rain	R8,000	Current bid: R8,000
27th September 2026 14:44	LOT 25 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Andre & Juan-OERF 25 13805 -3RD FINAL———-SIRE:ZA 19 OERF 3436.Alias “Full Throttle” The best that we can offer from this fantastic family of pigeons.Only started breeding him as he was on loan to a fancier. He sired 9th Ace in the Combine 2023.Sire to 2nd equal drop on race (2) Carnival winter 2025 from 739 p.Sire to 3rd place final Carnival OLR from 630 km 2026.————-DAM:ZA 24 OERF 4484.This hen was bred from the most sought after Locks crossed with the best long distance performers of Ferdi Lubbe.She is dam to 3rd final from 630 km at Carnival OLR winter series 2026.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	caradoc	R7,500	Current bid: R8,000
27th September 2026 14:43	LOT 25 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Andre & Juan-OERF 25 13805 -3RD FINAL———-SIRE:ZA 19 OERF 3436.Alias “Full Throttle” The best that we can offer from this fantastic family of pigeons.Only started breeding him as he was on loan to a fancier. He sired 9th Ace in the Combine 2023.Sire to 2nd equal drop on race (2) Carnival winter 2025 from 739 p.Sire to 3rd place final Carnival OLR from 630 km 2026.————-DAM:ZA 24 OERF 4484.This hen was bred from the most sought after Locks crossed with the best long distance performers of Ferdi Lubbe.She is dam to 3rd final from 630 km at Carnival OLR winter series 2026.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	rain	R7,000	Current bid: R8,000
27th September 2026 14:43	LOT 25 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Andre & Juan-OERF 25 13805 -3RD FINAL———-SIRE:ZA 19 OERF 3436.Alias “Full Throttle” The best that we can offer from this fantastic family of pigeons.Only started breeding him as he was on loan to a fancier. He sired 9th Ace in the Combine 2023.Sire to 2nd equal drop on race (2) Carnival winter 2025 from 739 p.Sire to 3rd place final Carnival OLR from 630 km 2026.————-DAM:ZA 24 OERF 4484.This hen was bred from the most sought after Locks crossed with the best long distance performers of Ferdi Lubbe.She is dam to 3rd final from 630 km at Carnival OLR winter series 2026.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	josefh-strydomgmail-com	R6,500	Current bid: R8,000
27th September 2026 14:42	LOT 25 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Andre & Juan-OERF 25 13805 -3RD FINAL———-SIRE:ZA 19 OERF 3436.Alias “Full Throttle” The best that we can offer from this fantastic family of pigeons.Only started breeding him as he was on loan to a fancier. He sired 9th Ace in the Combine 2023.Sire to 2nd equal drop on race (2) Carnival winter 2025 from 739 p.Sire to 3rd place final Carnival OLR from 630 km 2026.————-DAM:ZA 24 OERF 4484.This hen was bred from the most sought after Locks crossed with the best long distance performers of Ferdi Lubbe.She is dam to 3rd final from 630 km at Carnival OLR winter series 2026.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	rain	R6,000	Current bid: R8,000
27th September 2026 14:42	LOT 32 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Frederick Henry-BLUF 25 3416 –	lucky	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
27th September 2026 14:41	LOT 25 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Andre & Juan-OERF 25 13805 -3RD FINAL———-SIRE:ZA 19 OERF 3436.Alias “Full Throttle” The best that we can offer from this fantastic family of pigeons.Only started breeding him as he was on loan to a fancier. He sired 9th Ace in the Combine 2023.Sire to 2nd equal drop on race (2) Carnival winter 2025 from 739 p.Sire to 3rd place final Carnival OLR from 630 km 2026.————-DAM:ZA 24 OERF 4484.This hen was bred from the most sought after Locks crossed with the best long distance performers of Ferdi Lubbe.She is dam to 3rd final from 630 km at Carnival OLR winter series 2026.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	josefh-strydomgmail-com	R5,500	Current bid: R8,000
27th September 2026 14:41	LOT 79 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Bela Vista-OERF 25 10161 -RACE 4 WINNER , RACE 6 WINNER ————SIRE – OERF 22 5681 A proven racing cock and 2nd Best Short Distance Pigeon OERF 2024, with many performances inside the top 10%. He is bred from ZA 20 PSWU 3349, Stoop & Theron’s Pronk Mannetjie strain / Pronk Mannetjie JNR, crossed with ZA 20 PSWU 3342, also from Stoop & Theron, representing the Kekeles Juan 2 strain. A strong combination of proven short-distance racing performance and established bloodlines.—————-DAM – ZA 22 41002 Bred by John Gomes – Bela Vista Trust. She is a daughter of KUR 20 10069, who finished 3rd in the Final Race of the Summer Series 2021 and has produced several top pigeons. Her dam is ZA OERF 16 8177, a 2× Federation winner from 700 km, bred from Skraale × Connely Hen. A dam carrying both proven final-race performance and strong long-distance Federation-winning blood.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	thysenjohan	R8,500	Current bid: R8,500
27th September 2026 14:40	LOT 30 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Spikkels Hokke-OERF 25 14492 -SIRE – 3142 ZA 24 OERF “SON OF UNION WINNER” Jansen / Van Rhijn Kloeck / Lock / Carelly. A proven breeding cock that bred the 4th Carnival Lofts Final 2026 for Spikkels Hokke and also bred 10045, a 3× Winner — 2× Club and 1× Division, achieved two weeks in a row — bred by Pienaar Lofts. His sire, 2263 ZA 15 OERF, was a GPU Union Winner in 2016 as a youngster, winning Cradock 1st Club, 1st Division and 1st Union, and was a 4× winner. The dam line, through 7196 ZA 23 GPU, combines Tom Lock / Carelly and the Golden Carelly Ace Line.—————–DAM – 5787 ZA 23 OERF A Blue Bar hen from the 917 Clausing / Heinselman / Lock combination, raced by Andre Botha. Her sire, 3835 ZA 22 GPU – “917 Clausing”, is a son of the Clausing family and is sire to 3651, 2nd Ace Pigeon 2024. He is also a brother to 1541, a breeder behind many winners, including an 11th-place Thailand Masters Final performer. The dam line through 3260 ZA 22 CYRL combines strong Clausing, Heinselman, Lock and Sablon breeding, including birds recorded as producers of multiple winners.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	lucky	R2,000	Current bid: R2,500
27th September 2026 14:40	LOT 25 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Andre & Juan-OERF 25 13805 -3RD FINAL———-SIRE:ZA 19 OERF 3436.Alias “Full Throttle” The best that we can offer from this fantastic family of pigeons.Only started breeding him as he was on loan to a fancier. He sired 9th Ace in the Combine 2023.Sire to 2nd equal drop on race (2) Carnival winter 2025 from 739 p.Sire to 3rd place final Carnival OLR from 630 km 2026.————-DAM:ZA 24 OERF 4484.This hen was bred from the most sought after Locks crossed with the best long distance performers of Ferdi Lubbe.She is dam to 3rd final from 630 km at Carnival OLR winter series 2026.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	rain	R5,000	Current bid: R8,000
27th September 2026 14:37	LOT 24 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Rob van Veen-SLMD 25 716 -SIRE – 07027 ZA PSWU 2011 “SLIM/D.” Blue cock bred by Pieter Bekker. A strongly proven performance family combining the outstanding POWELL and Turbo Tom bloodlines. His sire is 8888 SA PSFU 2003 “POWELL”, a Super Race Cock, Union Derby Winner, multiple winner and sire to many winners. The family is further strengthened by POWELL II – 2017 SA NRHU 1999, a Union Derby Winner and producer of many winners, together with the proven Turbo Tom line. Also in the pedigree is 7253 SA GRPA 2000, a SAMPO Medal Winner. A sire packed with proven Union Derby, multiple-winning and medal-winning genetics.—————DAM – 01654-23-953 V “KIMBERLEY” Blue Check, bred by Klaus Stieneker. Kimberley comes from a powerful German performance and breeding family featuring MR. DIDDE SOFIE and REGIONALFLUG SIEGERIN. Her sire is DAN-12-0700-505 V “MR. DIDDE SOFIE”, from a highly successful racing line with numerous prize performances. This side includes 01654-22-152 V, described as a top breeder that both raced and bred prize pigeons, including success in AfrikaPro and Golden Race. Her dam line features 01549-16-32 W “REGIONALFLUG SIEGERIN”, a proven prize-winning hen. The family continues through 02910-13-387 V “POKERS 387” and 02910-08-570 W “TOCHTER ALPHA”, strengthening the pedigree with established German racing and breeding genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	holid	R1,500	Winning Bid: R1,500
27th September 2026 14:36	LOT 24 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Rob van Veen-SLMD 25 716 -SIRE – 07027 ZA PSWU 2011 “SLIM/D.” Blue cock bred by Pieter Bekker. A strongly proven performance family combining the outstanding POWELL and Turbo Tom bloodlines. His sire is 8888 SA PSFU 2003 “POWELL”, a Super Race Cock, Union Derby Winner, multiple winner and sire to many winners. The family is further strengthened by POWELL II – 2017 SA NRHU 1999, a Union Derby Winner and producer of many winners, together with the proven Turbo Tom line. Also in the pedigree is 7253 SA GRPA 2000, a SAMPO Medal Winner. A sire packed with proven Union Derby, multiple-winning and medal-winning genetics.—————DAM – 01654-23-953 V “KIMBERLEY” Blue Check, bred by Klaus Stieneker. Kimberley comes from a powerful German performance and breeding family featuring MR. DIDDE SOFIE and REGIONALFLUG SIEGERIN. Her sire is DAN-12-0700-505 V “MR. DIDDE SOFIE”, from a highly successful racing line with numerous prize performances. This side includes 01654-22-152 V, described as a top breeder that both raced and bred prize pigeons, including success in AfrikaPro and Golden Race. Her dam line features 01549-16-32 W “REGIONALFLUG SIEGERIN”, a proven prize-winning hen. The family continues through 02910-13-387 V “POKERS 387” and 02910-08-570 W “TOCHTER ALPHA”, strengthening the pedigree with established German racing and breeding genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	goldengenetics2024gmail-com	R1,000	Winning Bid: R1,500
27th September 2026 14:31	LOT 65 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – GVR-OERF 25 10744 —-11TH FINAL—–SIRE:5335 GPU ZA 23.LAPA/TWILIGHT. 2 X WINNER.———–DAM:4962 GPU ZA 24. GREAT RACER AND BEST YOUNG BIRD IN MY LOFT.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	thysenjohan	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
27th September 2026 14:31	LOT 17 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – RMG Racing-FB 25 10060 -SIRE – PL 0225-21-9145 “BONTE PEARL” A strongly inbred Kittel cock, bred from a grandson × double granddaughter of the world-famous “Kittel”. Bonte Pearl combines some of the strongest Dirk Van den Bulck Kittel genetics through “Kittel Boy 108” of Andreas Drapa and “Inbred Kittel 442” of Marcel Sangers. His pedigree features outstanding Kittel descendants including Special Kittel, Double Kittel 422, Skittel and Sancy, making him a concentrated representative of this highly successful sprint and One Loft Race family.————DAM – ZA JJJ 91 “JUMANA” An outstandingly bred hen from proven One Loft Race winning bloodlines. Jumana is the sister of JIGA JET, winner of 1st Place Cape Town Summer Final 2022. Jiga Jet is also recorded as the father of the 1st Place Carnival Gold Cup 2023/24 winner. Jumana is bred from ORNAT II × ROCOVER and carries the proven blood of ORNAT, SORAIA, SHIROCCO and HALOVER. The pedigree records ORNAT as a major SAMDPR performer, Soraia as the 2012 Knock-Out winner, and Halover as the 1st Place 2014 SAMDPR Final winner over 661 km against 3,478 pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	spearlofts	R2,000	Winning Bid: R2,000
27th September 2026 14:28	LOT 30 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Spikkels Hokke-OERF 25 14492 -SIRE – 3142 ZA 24 OERF “SON OF UNION WINNER” Jansen / Van Rhijn Kloeck / Lock / Carelly. A proven breeding cock that bred the 4th Carnival Lofts Final 2026 for Spikkels Hokke and also bred 10045, a 3× Winner — 2× Club and 1× Division, achieved two weeks in a row — bred by Pienaar Lofts. His sire, 2263 ZA 15 OERF, was a GPU Union Winner in 2016 as a youngster, winning Cradock 1st Club, 1st Division and 1st Union, and was a 4× winner. The dam line, through 7196 ZA 23 GPU, combines Tom Lock / Carelly and the Golden Carelly Ace Line.—————–DAM – 5787 ZA 23 OERF A Blue Bar hen from the 917 Clausing / Heinselman / Lock combination, raced by Andre Botha. Her sire, 3835 ZA 22 GPU – “917 Clausing”, is a son of the Clausing family and is sire to 3651, 2nd Ace Pigeon 2024. He is also a brother to 1541, a breeder behind many winners, including an 11th-place Thailand Masters Final performer. The dam line through 3260 ZA 22 CYRL combines strong Clausing, Heinselman, Lock and Sablon breeding, including birds recorded as producers of multiple winners.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	lolo	R1,500	Current bid: R2,500
27th September 2026 14:25	LOT 27 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Wynand Steenkamp-TPA 25 7446 -SIRE:ZA-2023-OERF-3891 “MELLOW YELLOW” Witpen Hokke Blue 6de ACE BIRD – Carnival OLR 2024. 1e Race 5 (17min ahead of 3rd pigeon) 3e Race 6 14e Final Race.———–DAM:ZA-2022-GPU-6268 “EVELYN” Joe Gomes Blue • ACE BIRD Dinokeng 2023 (Unofficial) – excluded from nominated birds. • Full sister to Dinokeng 2025 Ace Bird and Final Race Winner BLUE MOON. • Mother to 3rd Dinokeng ACE Bird 2024 – EVELYN’S STAR. SUPER HEN!SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	jinx	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
27th September 2026 14:20	LOT 32 CARNIVAL WINTER OLR – Frederick Henry-BLUF 25 3416 –	yuriy-shmelev	R1,500	Current bid: R2,000

.LOT 3 END JUNE – ZA 24 BULLCAT 1496 -SIRE:NL 21 1423147. JO & FLORIAN HENDRIKS. THIS IS A DIRECT GRANDSON TO WORLD FAMOUS “HARRY”.—————-DAM: NL 21 1375021 . BOTH HER SIRE AND DAM ARE GRAND CHILDREN OF “HARRY” JAN HOOYMANS . SEE PEDIGREE!!!

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