LOT 11 FERDIE COETZER – ZA 24 OERL 2016 – Linebred to Kittel . Fantastic handler medium in size . Dam is sister to super racer Stingray . One of the great features of ZA 24 OERLE 2016 is his superb muscles typical to the Kittel pigeons . Will make a classy stock cock .SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

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25th August 2026 15:07	LOT 17 SAIPR WINTER OLR – PASSION LOFTS 1-OERF 6687 2025 -4TH GRAND AVERAGES———SIRE:27 ZA CAS 25 “ICE-CREAM” Dr Gavin Rous Foundation A powerful sire bred from the outstanding “Fourteen” family, combining the renowned genetics of Dr Gavin Rous, André Roodhooft, Tom Lock and B&R Bouwers. His pedigree includes the famous Dr Gavin Rous Egg Cock, Tom Lock Egg Cock, Tom Lock “Hawk”, Twilight Cock and multiple winner bloodlines. A valuable foundation cock with proven champion genetics throughout..————-DAM:4710 ZA BPFD 24 “FOURTY SEVEN TEN” JJJ van der Linde Foundation A quality foundation hen bred from the exceptional JJJ van der Linde, Tom Lock, “Golden Hawk”, “Supreme Hawk”, “810” and “8855” bloodlines. Her sire side includes the renowned “Witoog” hen, closely related to the Tom Lock Car Winner and the Ace Pigeon of Hawk River Loft. Her dam side represents the golden genetic base of Marcel Aelbrecht, Frans Sablon, Etienne De Rauw, Pros Roosen, Freddie Vandenheede and Eric Limbourg—a powerful combination of proven racing and breeding bloodlines.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	denisedaxxess-co-za	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
25th August 2026 15:00	ZZ..LOT 107 SAIPR WINTER OLR -Siebrie Syndicate-DV 06723/5736 2025 –	danke	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
25th August 2026 14:52	LOT 25 SAIPR WINTER OLR – OOA & RVV 2-ZA VPU 4265 2025 – 5TH FINAL RACE WINNING R90 000.00——–SIRE ZA 22 ABL 883 Alias “MEALY TURBO KITTEL 883” Strain: A BESTER – SUPER SPRINT 26 Color: Red Chequer ZA ABL 883/22 – “MEALY TURBO KITTEL 883” – Proven breeder of top stock. His children, when mated to 2 different hens are breeding top racers. Sire to ZA OOA 337/25- SAIPR SUMMER RACE ENTRANT 2026 – LATER bred Equal 1st on the drop – 4th Hot Spot 3, Bloemfontein, 288km, vel 1108. Wins R10 000. His nestmate ZA ABL 0882/22 – Is sire to ZA ABL 1322/24- 1st Ace Pigeon Overall Tshwane Pigeon Association, 2025 2nd Ace Pigeon Overall Combine of Greater Gauteng. His daughter ZA WPU 1816/25 – Dam to 2 winners in 2026 season – J Breedt————–DAM ZA 20 VPU 9224 Alias “4TH FINAL 2ND ACE” Strain: 1st Nat Ace X 810/371 Color: BbwF ZA VPU 9224/20 – “LEOPARD” – Equal 1st on the drop – 4th Dinokeng Final 2021, Colesberg, 655km, vel 1344 – Winner of R100 000. 2nd Ace Pigeon Dinokeng 2021 Series. Winner of R30 000. Dam in turn to ZA VPU 9428/22 “KALAHARI SANDS” Dinokeng Entrant 2023- SOLD FOR R63 000.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	aneeskathrada	R6,500	Current bid: R6,500
25th August 2026 14:50	LOT 30 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Gys Louw 1-TPA 7198 2025##### -Halfsister Lara’ Pigeon Palace Grizzle Halfsister ‘Lara’ record breaking machine at Afrika Pro ’25. Blue Jacket Ace pigeon overall. Brown Jacket long distance Ace. 3rd Final race. Lara was sold for 112 000 euro’s.—————–SIRE:GB-23-75451 C ‘Grizzle Prince’ Derek Walsh Grizzle Super inbred to worldfamous breeders Di Caprio ace racer 3 x winner, father to Olympiad pigeon ‘Olympic Niels’ Olympiad pigeon Belgium Cat A Co-winner Gouden duif trophy. Ace MD Superfond Ace union Antwerp 2 x 1st Provincial Champion 2012 Kannibaal National Ace KBDB MD and foundation breeder for many fanciers around the world. Responsible for the most Sprint/Middle distance KBDB National Ace titles.—————-DAM:PWDU-20-2638 H ‘Mienke sister’ Pigeon Palace BB Her sister ‘Mienke’ was an outstanding performer at Dinokeng OLR. Mother to ‘Lara’ phenomenal record breaking racing machine at Afrika Pro 2025. 1st Ace pigeon overall (Blue Jacket) 1st Ace pigeon long distance (Brown Jacket) 3rd final race 601 km 1150 mpm.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	aneeskathrada	R7,000	Current bid: R7,000
25th August 2026 14:50	LOT 30 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Gys Louw 1-TPA 7198 2025##### -Halfsister Lara’ Pigeon Palace Grizzle Halfsister ‘Lara’ record breaking machine at Afrika Pro ’25. Blue Jacket Ace pigeon overall. Brown Jacket long distance Ace. 3rd Final race. Lara was sold for 112 000 euro’s.—————–SIRE:GB-23-75451 C ‘Grizzle Prince’ Derek Walsh Grizzle Super inbred to worldfamous breeders Di Caprio ace racer 3 x winner, father to Olympiad pigeon ‘Olympic Niels’ Olympiad pigeon Belgium Cat A Co-winner Gouden duif trophy. Ace MD Superfond Ace union Antwerp 2 x 1st Provincial Champion 2012 Kannibaal National Ace KBDB MD and foundation breeder for many fanciers around the world. Responsible for the most Sprint/Middle distance KBDB National Ace titles.—————-DAM:PWDU-20-2638 H ‘Mienke sister’ Pigeon Palace BB Her sister ‘Mienke’ was an outstanding performer at Dinokeng OLR. Mother to ‘Lara’ phenomenal record breaking racing machine at Afrika Pro 2025. 1st Ace pigeon overall (Blue Jacket) 1st Ace pigeon long distance (Brown Jacket) 3rd final race 601 km 1150 mpm.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	annetjie	R7,000	Current bid: R7,000
25th August 2026 14:50	LOT 30 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Gys Louw 1-TPA 7198 2025##### -Halfsister Lara’ Pigeon Palace Grizzle Halfsister ‘Lara’ record breaking machine at Afrika Pro ’25. Blue Jacket Ace pigeon overall. Brown Jacket long distance Ace. 3rd Final race. Lara was sold for 112 000 euro’s.—————–SIRE:GB-23-75451 C ‘Grizzle Prince’ Derek Walsh Grizzle Super inbred to worldfamous breeders Di Caprio ace racer 3 x winner, father to Olympiad pigeon ‘Olympic Niels’ Olympiad pigeon Belgium Cat A Co-winner Gouden duif trophy. Ace MD Superfond Ace union Antwerp 2 x 1st Provincial Champion 2012 Kannibaal National Ace KBDB MD and foundation breeder for many fanciers around the world. Responsible for the most Sprint/Middle distance KBDB National Ace titles.—————-DAM:PWDU-20-2638 H ‘Mienke sister’ Pigeon Palace BB Her sister ‘Mienke’ was an outstanding performer at Dinokeng OLR. Mother to ‘Lara’ phenomenal record breaking racing machine at Afrika Pro 2025. 1st Ace pigeon overall (Blue Jacket) 1st Ace pigeon long distance (Brown Jacket) 3rd final race 601 km 1150 mpm.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	aneeskathrada	R6,000	Current bid: R7,000
25th August 2026 14:50	LOT 30 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Gys Louw 1-TPA 7198 2025##### -Halfsister Lara’ Pigeon Palace Grizzle Halfsister ‘Lara’ record breaking machine at Afrika Pro ’25. Blue Jacket Ace pigeon overall. Brown Jacket long distance Ace. 3rd Final race. Lara was sold for 112 000 euro’s.—————–SIRE:GB-23-75451 C ‘Grizzle Prince’ Derek Walsh Grizzle Super inbred to worldfamous breeders Di Caprio ace racer 3 x winner, father to Olympiad pigeon ‘Olympic Niels’ Olympiad pigeon Belgium Cat A Co-winner Gouden duif trophy. Ace MD Superfond Ace union Antwerp 2 x 1st Provincial Champion 2012 Kannibaal National Ace KBDB MD and foundation breeder for many fanciers around the world. Responsible for the most Sprint/Middle distance KBDB National Ace titles.—————-DAM:PWDU-20-2638 H ‘Mienke sister’ Pigeon Palace BB Her sister ‘Mienke’ was an outstanding performer at Dinokeng OLR. Mother to ‘Lara’ phenomenal record breaking racing machine at Afrika Pro 2025. 1st Ace pigeon overall (Blue Jacket) 1st Ace pigeon long distance (Brown Jacket) 3rd final race 601 km 1150 mpm.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	annetjie	R6,500	Current bid: R7,000
25th August 2026 14:49	LOT 40 SAIPR WINTER OLR – DINOKENG OLR-ZA CRUD 3041 2025 –	annetjie	R10,000	Current bid: R10,000
25th August 2026 14:43	LOT 30 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Gys Louw 1-TPA 7198 2025##### -Halfsister Lara’ Pigeon Palace Grizzle Halfsister ‘Lara’ record breaking machine at Afrika Pro ’25. Blue Jacket Ace pigeon overall. Brown Jacket long distance Ace. 3rd Final race. Lara was sold for 112 000 euro’s.—————–SIRE:GB-23-75451 C ‘Grizzle Prince’ Derek Walsh Grizzle Super inbred to worldfamous breeders Di Caprio ace racer 3 x winner, father to Olympiad pigeon ‘Olympic Niels’ Olympiad pigeon Belgium Cat A Co-winner Gouden duif trophy. Ace MD Superfond Ace union Antwerp 2 x 1st Provincial Champion 2012 Kannibaal National Ace KBDB MD and foundation breeder for many fanciers around the world. Responsible for the most Sprint/Middle distance KBDB National Ace titles.—————-DAM:PWDU-20-2638 H ‘Mienke sister’ Pigeon Palace BB Her sister ‘Mienke’ was an outstanding performer at Dinokeng OLR. Mother to ‘Lara’ phenomenal record breaking racing machine at Afrika Pro 2025. 1st Ace pigeon overall (Blue Jacket) 1st Ace pigeon long distance (Brown Jacket) 3rd final race 601 km 1150 mpm.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	annetjie	R5,500	Current bid: R7,000
25th August 2026 14:00	ZZ..LOT 140 SAIPR WINTER OLR -PAINTER & ULLRICH-DV 01811/1799 2025##### –	lpaulus	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
25th August 2026 13:32	LOT 59 SAIPR WINTER OLR – PAINTER & ULLRICH-ZA NDK 1278 2025 -“LADY PURPOSE “is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025. This hen was a superb racer at Saipr Winter 2026. She scored the following positions during the Grand Averages series: 10th, 12th, 14th, 33rd (all 4 X 1st drop) and 26th, 43rd and 57th on the Final. She ended the series as 42nd Ace Pigeon out of the original intake of 816 Pigeons. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” is a SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019. He is without a doubt in the Top 3 breeding cocks in South Africa. Not only did he sire the Afrikapro Winner but also 5th Green Jacket Afrikapro 2024. “DUAL PURPOSE” is sire to 14 individual winners including 5 individual Union Winners. Several of his offspring are already in the super-breeder class most notably 296/20 who is mother to Bennie Smit’s 4 X Union/TRPF Winner. The dam of “LADY PURPOSE” is “WHENNY”. She, is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. Not only is “WHENNY” the mother to the Afrikapro Winner but another of her sons “WHIPROOIJ” was twice first drop at Afrikapro 2023 scoring 2nd & 3rd on Race 7 and 12 respectivly.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	bossie	R10,500	Current bid: R10,500
25th August 2026 13:32	LOT 59 SAIPR WINTER OLR – PAINTER & ULLRICH-ZA NDK 1278 2025 -“LADY PURPOSE “is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025. This hen was a superb racer at Saipr Winter 2026. She scored the following positions during the Grand Averages series: 10th, 12th, 14th, 33rd (all 4 X 1st drop) and 26th, 43rd and 57th on the Final. She ended the series as 42nd Ace Pigeon out of the original intake of 816 Pigeons. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” is a SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019. He is without a doubt in the Top 3 breeding cocks in South Africa. Not only did he sire the Afrikapro Winner but also 5th Green Jacket Afrikapro 2024. “DUAL PURPOSE” is sire to 14 individual winners including 5 individual Union Winners. Several of his offspring are already in the super-breeder class most notably 296/20 who is mother to Bennie Smit’s 4 X Union/TRPF Winner. The dam of “LADY PURPOSE” is “WHENNY”. She, is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. Not only is “WHENNY” the mother to the Afrikapro Winner but another of her sons “WHIPROOIJ” was twice first drop at Afrikapro 2023 scoring 2nd & 3rd on Race 7 and 12 respectivly.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	elephant	R10,000	Current bid: R10,500
25th August 2026 13:31	LOT 59 SAIPR WINTER OLR – PAINTER & ULLRICH-ZA NDK 1278 2025 -“LADY PURPOSE “is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025. This hen was a superb racer at Saipr Winter 2026. She scored the following positions during the Grand Averages series: 10th, 12th, 14th, 33rd (all 4 X 1st drop) and 26th, 43rd and 57th on the Final. She ended the series as 42nd Ace Pigeon out of the original intake of 816 Pigeons. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” is a SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019. He is without a doubt in the Top 3 breeding cocks in South Africa. Not only did he sire the Afrikapro Winner but also 5th Green Jacket Afrikapro 2024. “DUAL PURPOSE” is sire to 14 individual winners including 5 individual Union Winners. Several of his offspring are already in the super-breeder class most notably 296/20 who is mother to Bennie Smit’s 4 X Union/TRPF Winner. The dam of “LADY PURPOSE” is “WHENNY”. She, is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. Not only is “WHENNY” the mother to the Afrikapro Winner but another of her sons “WHIPROOIJ” was twice first drop at Afrikapro 2023 scoring 2nd & 3rd on Race 7 and 12 respectivly.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	elephant	R8,500	Current bid: R10,500
25th August 2026 13:31	LOT 59 SAIPR WINTER OLR – PAINTER & ULLRICH-ZA NDK 1278 2025 -“LADY PURPOSE “is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025. This hen was a superb racer at Saipr Winter 2026. She scored the following positions during the Grand Averages series: 10th, 12th, 14th, 33rd (all 4 X 1st drop) and 26th, 43rd and 57th on the Final. She ended the series as 42nd Ace Pigeon out of the original intake of 816 Pigeons. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” is a SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019. He is without a doubt in the Top 3 breeding cocks in South Africa. Not only did he sire the Afrikapro Winner but also 5th Green Jacket Afrikapro 2024. “DUAL PURPOSE” is sire to 14 individual winners including 5 individual Union Winners. Several of his offspring are already in the super-breeder class most notably 296/20 who is mother to Bennie Smit’s 4 X Union/TRPF Winner. The dam of “LADY PURPOSE” is “WHENNY”. She, is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. Not only is “WHENNY” the mother to the Afrikapro Winner but another of her sons “WHIPROOIJ” was twice first drop at Afrikapro 2023 scoring 2nd & 3rd on Race 7 and 12 respectivly.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	bossie	R8,000	Current bid: R10,500
25th August 2026 13:31	LOT 59 SAIPR WINTER OLR – PAINTER & ULLRICH-ZA NDK 1278 2025 -“LADY PURPOSE “is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025. This hen was a superb racer at Saipr Winter 2026. She scored the following positions during the Grand Averages series: 10th, 12th, 14th, 33rd (all 4 X 1st drop) and 26th, 43rd and 57th on the Final. She ended the series as 42nd Ace Pigeon out of the original intake of 816 Pigeons. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” is a SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019. He is without a doubt in the Top 3 breeding cocks in South Africa. Not only did he sire the Afrikapro Winner but also 5th Green Jacket Afrikapro 2024. “DUAL PURPOSE” is sire to 14 individual winners including 5 individual Union Winners. Several of his offspring are already in the super-breeder class most notably 296/20 who is mother to Bennie Smit’s 4 X Union/TRPF Winner. The dam of “LADY PURPOSE” is “WHENNY”. She, is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. Not only is “WHENNY” the mother to the Afrikapro Winner but another of her sons “WHIPROOIJ” was twice first drop at Afrikapro 2023 scoring 2nd & 3rd on Race 7 and 12 respectivly.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	3290	R5,000	Current bid: R10,500
25th August 2026 13:31	LOT 59 SAIPR WINTER OLR – PAINTER & ULLRICH-ZA NDK 1278 2025 -“LADY PURPOSE “is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025. This hen was a superb racer at Saipr Winter 2026. She scored the following positions during the Grand Averages series: 10th, 12th, 14th, 33rd (all 4 X 1st drop) and 26th, 43rd and 57th on the Final. She ended the series as 42nd Ace Pigeon out of the original intake of 816 Pigeons. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” is a SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019. He is without a doubt in the Top 3 breeding cocks in South Africa. Not only did he sire the Afrikapro Winner but also 5th Green Jacket Afrikapro 2024. “DUAL PURPOSE” is sire to 14 individual winners including 5 individual Union Winners. Several of his offspring are already in the super-breeder class most notably 296/20 who is mother to Bennie Smit’s 4 X Union/TRPF Winner. The dam of “LADY PURPOSE” is “WHENNY”. She, is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. Not only is “WHENNY” the mother to the Afrikapro Winner but another of her sons “WHIPROOIJ” was twice first drop at Afrikapro 2023 scoring 2nd & 3rd on Race 7 and 12 respectivly.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	elephant	R5,500	Current bid: R10,500
25th August 2026 13:22	LOT 21 SAIPR WINTER OLR – VSL 1-ZA KPU 3069 2025 -THIS IS A SUPER BRED PIGEON. SOME OF THE BEST PERFORMING BLOODLINES IN PEDIGREE————-SIRE:0243 ZA 22 ” SMEG ” Colou DCP MELT’S BEST KITTEL SIRE OF 3RD OVERALL ACE SAIPR SUMMER 2025. LINE BRED TO BEST KITTEL.MOTHER IS FULL SISTER OF JUNIOR BEST KITTEL SIRE MELT BEST KITTEL BRED OUT OF BEST KITTEL AND THE BEST OF VAN DEN BULCK. THE DAM IS A SPECIAL BREEDING.——————DAM:17616 OVRF 21 “HOOYKIT” Colou BB HOOYMANS/BEST KITTEL/KAASBOER HOOYKIT BOUGHT FOR R250 000.00 ON TOP PIGEON. 2ND HOTSPOT AVE SAIPIR 2022 BEATEN BY LOFT MATE BY LESS THAN 10SEC. 3RD ACE PIGEON WAS 1HR 34 MIN BEHINDE. EQUAL WINNER FINAL WINNING R110 000.00 FOR THE SEASON WINNER OF H/S 4 5X EQUAL.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	zambian	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
25th August 2026 13:21	LOT 13 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Bertus Nel-ZA NOK 338 2025 -SIRE: 15577 ZA 2016.Alias “SCARECROW” Sire of nestmates: ZA 18 WELL 059 – 1 union BWest 365km 575p, 1 club 4 union LGamka 294km 561p, 3 club 19 union LGama 294km 626p, 4 club 4 union LGamka 294km 579p, etc and 1st ace short distance pigeon Boland Vervoer Trust truck. ZA 18 WELL 058 – 1 union 294km. ZA 24 OERF 5041 – 1 club 4 Fed Noupoort 399km 1002mpm (winning club with 3 loft mates by 51 minutes). 15577 is a brother of GOLDEN GABY II, sire of three daughters winning 5 WCPTA Combines!————DAM:179938 2019 ZA .Alias “DAUGHTER BLIKSEM 34” Mother of: ZA 21 CBX 237 – 1 ELRP Combine Willowmore 420km 437p, 6 club 20 ECBU Combine 520km 1240mpm 587p. ZA 24 OERF 5041 – 1 club 4 Fed Noupoort 399km 1002mpm (winning club with 3 loft mates by 51 minutes), 1 Fraserburg 244km 1354mpm. ZA 23 101421 – mother of two 1st Combine winners. ZA 21 CAS 883 – sire of many winners for Jannie Brand. ZA 21 CBX 150 – 161st Super Ace Vic Falls ’22 (intake of more than 8220 pigeons). SEE PEDIGREE!!!	zambian	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
25th August 2026 13:20	.LOT 8 SAIPR WINTER OLR – VERMEULEN LOFT-ZA FB 6298 2025 -SIRE:ZA CRU-23-239 M MEAL DU PREEZ – DEETLEFS FATHER MAD MAX !!!! 1 PRIZE WINNER AFRIKAPRO 2025 HOTSPOT 7 383KM !!!! MAD MAX WAS SOLD FOR 9.000$ !!! Winner of: 1. PRIZE HS7 383KM 18. PRIZE HS6 330KM FATHER TURBO KITTEL X 168/20.—————DAM:ZA ZA-20-9731 H Inbred Number 1 BCH Never to be repeated again ‘ Inbred to foundation cock Number One’ hen up for sale. She is a small compact hen with soft feathering and tight vents Super Gold medal winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	dont-waste-time	R5,500	Current bid: R5,500
25th August 2026 12:56	LOT 62 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Bertus Nel-ZA NOK/CAS 592 2025##### –	amo	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000

LOT 11 FERDIE COETZER – ZA 24 OERL 2016 – Linebred to Kittel . Fantastic handler medium in size . Dam is sister to super racer Stingray . One of the great features of ZA 24 OERLE 2016 is his superb muscles typical to the Kittel pigeons . Will make a classy stock cock .SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

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.LOT 6 FERDIE COETZER – ZA 24 OERL 2024 – This pairing is one of my favourites . Halfbrother x halfsister back to my nr 1 Kittel / Blou Bul hen 399 dam to Stingray . These are 2 standout pigeons and their children will surely produce champions . Highly recommended .SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!