Active Auction-Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2-----Thursday 7 July to Monday 11 July 2022(20:00)

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.Lot 17 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 19 PRPC 22825 BC C————–SIRE : IHUS 18 IHUS 149930. Alias “THE WINNER” Strain: Ganus. Color: BB. HALF BROTHER TO JUNIOR2 5th PLACEMILLION DOLLAR RACE WINNER OF MERCEDES WINNING 110 000 Dollar———–DAM: PWF 17 ZA 10421. TOP RACER at DINOKENG ONE DAY RACING LOFTS. 2nd on Main race 6 SECONDS from bakkie win. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.Lot 19 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 19 PRPC 22441 BCWF C——-SIRE : PWF 16 ZAD 1011. SCHROYENS SUPER CRACK. SIRE “1578” IS THE BEST YOUNG BIRD IN CLUB and PRETORIA UNION and 3rd BEST YOUNG BIRD IN PRETORIA COMBINE. GRAND SIRE IS 07 SA 7970 IS A SON OF SANPO GOLD WINNER FOR DEAN JOOSTE 99 SA 2070 BEST 2 YEAR OLD BIRD in club and 2nd BEST PTA FED 94 SA 92397 IS BEST OVERALL BIRD IN CLUB AND PRETORIA FEDERATION.——–DAM: PWF 14 ZAD 0890. JANSEN SUPREME. 1st Colesberg , 2nd Cradock , 5th Colesberg , 9th Richmond. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,000 Auction finished Auction finished
.Lot 21 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 19 PRPC 22803 BB H———SIRE: PWF 14 ZA 03491. JANSEN SUPREME. ALL FLIGHT PIGEON, EXCELLENT BREEDER. ALFONSO KLAAS.———DAM: PWF 14 ZAD 1476. JANSEN SUPREME. EXCELLENT LONG DISTANCE RACER. 2nd Cradock , 2nd Leeugamka , 7th Cradock , 11th Noupoort , 27th Cradock etc. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,000 Auction finished Auction finished
.Lot 27 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 17 PWF 3946 BB H——-SIRE: PWF 14 ZA 03491. JANSEN SUPREME. ALL FLIGHT PIGEON, EXCELLENT BREEDER. ALFONSO KLAAS.——–DAM : VNRF 15 ZA 0481. HARDY KRUGER. DAM OF HOTSPOT WINNER AT VIC FALLS. DAM OF 2ND PLACE DINOKENG ONE RACE LOFTS, MISSED THE “BAKKIE FIRST PRICE” WITH 6 SECONDS. DAM OF 2ND PLACE IN MAIN RACE AT BLOEMFONTEIN CENTRAL PROVINCIAL LOFTS WINNING R50 000. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.Lot 28 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 17 PWF 4608 BCPD H——-SIRE : PWF 09 ZA 10428. Sierens Verbruggen. IS BRED OUT OF WINNERS AND ACE PIGEONS.——DAM : PRPC 09 ZA 41276. JANSEN SUPREME. 4th Richmond , 13th LeeuGamka , 20th Bloemfontein , 23rd Windburg etc. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,500 Auction finished Auction finished

Date	Auction	Username	Bid	Status
16th September 2026 0:01	.LOT 1 PIGEON PALACE – ZA 19 13722 -“SISTER JUWEELTJIE” A quality mealy breeding hen, bred from the proven Busschaert and Alfons Klaas bloodlines. She is the dam of KGL 36/22, an excellent long-distance racer. She is a sister to “Juweeltjie,” a double winner and Best Bird that later bred Ace Pigeon and SANPO medal winner “1113” for Nico Muller. She is also related to several outstanding performers, including: • 03246/20 – Union winner from Leeu-Gamka, 1,000 km • 27123/17 – Top PWDU performer and sire of a TPA Derby winner • 4407 – Bred the only bird home on the day • 2502/22 – 4 × Top 10 TPA positions • 5625/18 – 2nd Ace Bird————SIRE ZA 11 01533 C – “ALBERT” A proven mealy Busschaert cock that was eight times the first bird to the loft. He won from Winburg over 330 km and Matjiesfontein over 1,100 km for Chris Hatting. “Albert” became an outstanding breeder and is the father of: • 27123/17 – 6th Overall Best Bird PWDU 2019 and a leading breeder for Hendrik Cronje • 83412/18 – Colesberg Derby winner • 3246/20 – 1st Leeu-Gamka over 990 km and an excellent breeding hen • 89967/18 – 1st Richmond 750 km, 1st Noupoort 710 km, 2nd Victoria West Open and 5th Bloemfontein.—————-DAM ZA 16 18159 H – “DAM JUWEELTJIE” A blue-bar Alfons Klaas hen raced by Chris Hatting. Her performances include: • 5th Club and 29th Union Winburg • 3rd Club and 14th Union Noupoort • 1st Club and 2nd Union Noupoort • 1st Club and 2nd Union Jamestown She is the dam of 27123/17, a mealy pigeon that finished among the Top 10 birds on the 2019 PWDU averages.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	toni-dossantos65gmail-com	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
15th September 2026 23:21	ZZ..LOT 100 KAROO MILLION OLR-F1 LOFTS-32 F1 LOFTS 2026 –	f1-lofts	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
15th September 2026 22:34	LOT 60 KAROO MILLION OLR-NINJA LOFTS-2523 VPU 2025 –	cfivaza	R4,500	Current bid: R4,500
15th September 2026 22:33	LOT 60 KAROO MILLION OLR-NINJA LOFTS-2523 VPU 2025 –	bossie	R4,000	Current bid: R4,500
15th September 2026 22:33	LOT 60 KAROO MILLION OLR-NINJA LOFTS-2523 VPU 2025 –	cfivaza	R4,000	Current bid: R4,500
15th September 2026 22:33	LOT 60 KAROO MILLION OLR-NINJA LOFTS-2523 VPU 2025 –	bossie	R3,500	Current bid: R4,500
15th September 2026 22:33	LOT 60 KAROO MILLION OLR-NINJA LOFTS-2523 VPU 2025 –	cfivaza	R3,000	Current bid: R4,500
15th September 2026 21:48	LOT 1 FULL IMPORT DEREK WALSH – GB 24 84373 -SIRE GB 14 R27242 “Olympiad Supreme” he is from the exclusive pairing of Son Olympiade 003 X Daughter Di Caprio. Descendants have won 1st Fed 3,323b, 1st Fed 2,440b, 1st Fed 2,014b, 2nd Fed to loft mate 1,782b, 3rd Fed to loft mates 3,212b, 4th Fed to loft mates 1,537b, 4th Fed 1,131b, 6th Fed to 5 loft mates 1,782b, 6th National IHUNFC 730b, 10th Fed, 10th Fed, 16th Fed, 17th, 20th and 27th Fed winners. ————-DAM GB 19 V75812 Cheque Hen “Golden Girl” she won 2nd Fed against 2,002b beaten by her loft mate and she only ever had 3 races in her life. She is the mother to ‘Maxine’ a winner of 7th Fed 3,319b, 24th Fed 7,914b and 55th Fed 4,300b. She is a granddaughter of ‘Son Blauwe Leo, Blauw Luna, Kittel Bolt and National Di Caprio’.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	rolien-kingoutlook-com	R7,500	Current bid: R7,500
15th September 2026 21:46	.LOT 4 PIGEON PALACE – ZA 25 TPA 7401 -A quality blue-bar hen bred for stock, carrying proven long-distance Gold Medal genetics. She combines the outstanding Crack Aelbrecht, De Norre-Wouters, Busschaert and Alfons Klaas bloodlines. Her pedigree is filled with Ace pigeons, SANPO medal winners, Union winners and proven breeders, making her an excellent prospect for a performance breeding loft.———–SIRE: BFPD-14-5540 “GOLDEN CRACK” An outstanding Crack Aelbrecht racer and proven breeder. “Golden Crack” was 1st Ace Long Distance BPF, a SANPO Bronze Medal winner and 3rd Ace Long Distance SANPO. He is the sire of 3430/18, dam of “Julia,” the 2022 AfrikaPro Final winner for Pigeon Palace. He is also grandsire of 866/20, the 2021 BPF 1st Ace Long Distance and SANPO Gold Medal winner. “Golden Crack” is a half-brother to the famous “250K” Super Schalie cock, another SANPO medal winner.————-DAM: ZA-19-13722 “SISTER JUWEELTJIE” A top breeding hen and dam of KGL 36/22, an excellent long-distance racer. Her sister, “Juweeltjie,” was a double winner, Best Bird and the dam of Ace pigeon and SANPO medal winner “1113” for Nico Muller. This exceptional family also produced a 1,000 km Leeu-Gamka Union winner, a TPA Derby winner, an only bird on the day and several top-performing TPA pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	rolien-kingoutlook-com	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
15th September 2026 21:45	.LOT 1 PIGEON PALACE SUPREME BEST KITTEL – ZA 25 TPA 7293 -“SUPREME BEST KITTEL” is a quality grizzle cock from Pigeon Palace, bred from an exceptional combination of Best Kittel and Leo Heremans genetics. His pedigree features world-renowned pigeons such as Best Kittel II, Grizzle Mama, Shakira, Olympiad 003, Di Caprio and Golden Sagan. Both sides of the pedigree contain proven breeders and outstanding Federation performers, making him an excellent prospect for the breeding loft.————–SIRE: GPU-24-914 C “KEVIN GRIZZLE” A grizzle Best Kittel cock bred from the expensive PIPA Best Kittel genetics of Kevin Kitchenbrand. He is a son of BELG-23-4181642 “Son Grizzle BK,” a double grandchild of Best Kittel II, paired to GPU-13-4569 “Best Pair Hen,” described as Kevin Kitchenbrand’s number-one breeding hen. The sire’s pedigree combines Grizzle Best Kittel, Grizzle Mama, Best Kittel II, Shakira and the proven Mortimer breeding family.—————DAM: GBV-24-84346 H “LADY SUPREME” A Derek Walsh blue chequer hen and outstanding daughter of two proven breeding pigeons. Her sire, GB-14-R27242 “Olympiad Supreme,” is bred from an exclusive pairing between a top son of Olympiad 003 and a special daughter of the world-famous Di Caprio. Her dam, GBV-19-75812 “Golden Girl,” achieved 2nd Federation against 2,002 pigeons from only three races and became the mother of “Maxine,” a multiple Federation performer. Lady Supreme’s pedigree also contains Golden Sagan and the exceptional Derek Walsh “Booted Hen,” a proven breeder of a 1st Federation winner against 3,323 pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	rolien-kingoutlook-com	R8,500	Current bid: R8,500
15th September 2026 21:44	.LOT 1 PIGEON PALACE SUPREME BEST KITTEL – ZA 25 TPA 7293 -“SUPREME BEST KITTEL” is a quality grizzle cock from Pigeon Palace, bred from an exceptional combination of Best Kittel and Leo Heremans genetics. His pedigree features world-renowned pigeons such as Best Kittel II, Grizzle Mama, Shakira, Olympiad 003, Di Caprio and Golden Sagan. Both sides of the pedigree contain proven breeders and outstanding Federation performers, making him an excellent prospect for the breeding loft.————–SIRE: GPU-24-914 C “KEVIN GRIZZLE” A grizzle Best Kittel cock bred from the expensive PIPA Best Kittel genetics of Kevin Kitchenbrand. He is a son of BELG-23-4181642 “Son Grizzle BK,” a double grandchild of Best Kittel II, paired to GPU-13-4569 “Best Pair Hen,” described as Kevin Kitchenbrand’s number-one breeding hen. The sire’s pedigree combines Grizzle Best Kittel, Grizzle Mama, Best Kittel II, Shakira and the proven Mortimer breeding family.—————DAM: GBV-24-84346 H “LADY SUPREME” A Derek Walsh blue chequer hen and outstanding daughter of two proven breeding pigeons. Her sire, GB-14-R27242 “Olympiad Supreme,” is bred from an exclusive pairing between a top son of Olympiad 003 and a special daughter of the world-famous Di Caprio. Her dam, GBV-19-75812 “Golden Girl,” achieved 2nd Federation against 2,002 pigeons from only three races and became the mother of “Maxine,” a multiple Federation performer. Lady Supreme’s pedigree also contains Golden Sagan and the exceptional Derek Walsh “Booted Hen,” a proven breeder of a 1st Federation winner against 3,323 pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	annetjie	R8,000	Current bid: R8,500
15th September 2026 21:44	.LOT 1 PIGEON PALACE SUPREME BEST KITTEL – ZA 25 TPA 7293 -“SUPREME BEST KITTEL” is a quality grizzle cock from Pigeon Palace, bred from an exceptional combination of Best Kittel and Leo Heremans genetics. His pedigree features world-renowned pigeons such as Best Kittel II, Grizzle Mama, Shakira, Olympiad 003, Di Caprio and Golden Sagan. Both sides of the pedigree contain proven breeders and outstanding Federation performers, making him an excellent prospect for the breeding loft.————–SIRE: GPU-24-914 C “KEVIN GRIZZLE” A grizzle Best Kittel cock bred from the expensive PIPA Best Kittel genetics of Kevin Kitchenbrand. He is a son of BELG-23-4181642 “Son Grizzle BK,” a double grandchild of Best Kittel II, paired to GPU-13-4569 “Best Pair Hen,” described as Kevin Kitchenbrand’s number-one breeding hen. The sire’s pedigree combines Grizzle Best Kittel, Grizzle Mama, Best Kittel II, Shakira and the proven Mortimer breeding family.—————DAM: GBV-24-84346 H “LADY SUPREME” A Derek Walsh blue chequer hen and outstanding daughter of two proven breeding pigeons. Her sire, GB-14-R27242 “Olympiad Supreme,” is bred from an exclusive pairing between a top son of Olympiad 003 and a special daughter of the world-famous Di Caprio. Her dam, GBV-19-75812 “Golden Girl,” achieved 2nd Federation against 2,002 pigeons from only three races and became the mother of “Maxine,” a multiple Federation performer. Lady Supreme’s pedigree also contains Golden Sagan and the exceptional Derek Walsh “Booted Hen,” a proven breeder of a 1st Federation winner against 3,323 pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	rolien-kingoutlook-com	R7,500	Current bid: R8,500
15th September 2026 21:44	.LOT 1 PIGEON PALACE SUPREME BEST KITTEL – ZA 25 TPA 7293 -“SUPREME BEST KITTEL” is a quality grizzle cock from Pigeon Palace, bred from an exceptional combination of Best Kittel and Leo Heremans genetics. His pedigree features world-renowned pigeons such as Best Kittel II, Grizzle Mama, Shakira, Olympiad 003, Di Caprio and Golden Sagan. Both sides of the pedigree contain proven breeders and outstanding Federation performers, making him an excellent prospect for the breeding loft.————–SIRE: GPU-24-914 C “KEVIN GRIZZLE” A grizzle Best Kittel cock bred from the expensive PIPA Best Kittel genetics of Kevin Kitchenbrand. He is a son of BELG-23-4181642 “Son Grizzle BK,” a double grandchild of Best Kittel II, paired to GPU-13-4569 “Best Pair Hen,” described as Kevin Kitchenbrand’s number-one breeding hen. The sire’s pedigree combines Grizzle Best Kittel, Grizzle Mama, Best Kittel II, Shakira and the proven Mortimer breeding family.—————DAM: GBV-24-84346 H “LADY SUPREME” A Derek Walsh blue chequer hen and outstanding daughter of two proven breeding pigeons. Her sire, GB-14-R27242 “Olympiad Supreme,” is bred from an exclusive pairing between a top son of Olympiad 003 and a special daughter of the world-famous Di Caprio. Her dam, GBV-19-75812 “Golden Girl,” achieved 2nd Federation against 2,002 pigeons from only three races and became the mother of “Maxine,” a multiple Federation performer. Lady Supreme’s pedigree also contains Golden Sagan and the exceptional Derek Walsh “Booted Hen,” a proven breeder of a 1st Federation winner against 3,323 pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	rolien-kingoutlook-com	R6,500	Current bid: R8,500
15th September 2026 21:44	.LOT 1 PIGEON PALACE SUPREME BEST KITTEL – ZA 25 TPA 7293 -“SUPREME BEST KITTEL” is a quality grizzle cock from Pigeon Palace, bred from an exceptional combination of Best Kittel and Leo Heremans genetics. His pedigree features world-renowned pigeons such as Best Kittel II, Grizzle Mama, Shakira, Olympiad 003, Di Caprio and Golden Sagan. Both sides of the pedigree contain proven breeders and outstanding Federation performers, making him an excellent prospect for the breeding loft.————–SIRE: GPU-24-914 C “KEVIN GRIZZLE” A grizzle Best Kittel cock bred from the expensive PIPA Best Kittel genetics of Kevin Kitchenbrand. He is a son of BELG-23-4181642 “Son Grizzle BK,” a double grandchild of Best Kittel II, paired to GPU-13-4569 “Best Pair Hen,” described as Kevin Kitchenbrand’s number-one breeding hen. The sire’s pedigree combines Grizzle Best Kittel, Grizzle Mama, Best Kittel II, Shakira and the proven Mortimer breeding family.—————DAM: GBV-24-84346 H “LADY SUPREME” A Derek Walsh blue chequer hen and outstanding daughter of two proven breeding pigeons. Her sire, GB-14-R27242 “Olympiad Supreme,” is bred from an exclusive pairing between a top son of Olympiad 003 and a special daughter of the world-famous Di Caprio. Her dam, GBV-19-75812 “Golden Girl,” achieved 2nd Federation against 2,002 pigeons from only three races and became the mother of “Maxine,” a multiple Federation performer. Lady Supreme’s pedigree also contains Golden Sagan and the exceptional Derek Walsh “Booted Hen,” a proven breeder of a 1st Federation winner against 3,323 pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	annetjie	R7,000	Current bid: R8,500
15th September 2026 21:43	.LOT 1 PIGEON PALACE SUPREME BEST KITTEL – ZA 25 TPA 7293 -“SUPREME BEST KITTEL” is a quality grizzle cock from Pigeon Palace, bred from an exceptional combination of Best Kittel and Leo Heremans genetics. His pedigree features world-renowned pigeons such as Best Kittel II, Grizzle Mama, Shakira, Olympiad 003, Di Caprio and Golden Sagan. Both sides of the pedigree contain proven breeders and outstanding Federation performers, making him an excellent prospect for the breeding loft.————–SIRE: GPU-24-914 C “KEVIN GRIZZLE” A grizzle Best Kittel cock bred from the expensive PIPA Best Kittel genetics of Kevin Kitchenbrand. He is a son of BELG-23-4181642 “Son Grizzle BK,” a double grandchild of Best Kittel II, paired to GPU-13-4569 “Best Pair Hen,” described as Kevin Kitchenbrand’s number-one breeding hen. The sire’s pedigree combines Grizzle Best Kittel, Grizzle Mama, Best Kittel II, Shakira and the proven Mortimer breeding family.—————DAM: GBV-24-84346 H “LADY SUPREME” A Derek Walsh blue chequer hen and outstanding daughter of two proven breeding pigeons. Her sire, GB-14-R27242 “Olympiad Supreme,” is bred from an exclusive pairing between a top son of Olympiad 003 and a special daughter of the world-famous Di Caprio. Her dam, GBV-19-75812 “Golden Girl,” achieved 2nd Federation against 2,002 pigeons from only three races and became the mother of “Maxine,” a multiple Federation performer. Lady Supreme’s pedigree also contains Golden Sagan and the exceptional Derek Walsh “Booted Hen,” a proven breeder of a 1st Federation winner against 3,323 pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	annetjie	R6,000	Current bid: R8,500
15th September 2026 21:43	.LOT 1 PIGEON PALACE SUPREME BEST KITTEL – ZA 25 TPA 7293 -“SUPREME BEST KITTEL” is a quality grizzle cock from Pigeon Palace, bred from an exceptional combination of Best Kittel and Leo Heremans genetics. His pedigree features world-renowned pigeons such as Best Kittel II, Grizzle Mama, Shakira, Olympiad 003, Di Caprio and Golden Sagan. Both sides of the pedigree contain proven breeders and outstanding Federation performers, making him an excellent prospect for the breeding loft.————–SIRE: GPU-24-914 C “KEVIN GRIZZLE” A grizzle Best Kittel cock bred from the expensive PIPA Best Kittel genetics of Kevin Kitchenbrand. He is a son of BELG-23-4181642 “Son Grizzle BK,” a double grandchild of Best Kittel II, paired to GPU-13-4569 “Best Pair Hen,” described as Kevin Kitchenbrand’s number-one breeding hen. The sire’s pedigree combines Grizzle Best Kittel, Grizzle Mama, Best Kittel II, Shakira and the proven Mortimer breeding family.—————DAM: GBV-24-84346 H “LADY SUPREME” A Derek Walsh blue chequer hen and outstanding daughter of two proven breeding pigeons. Her sire, GB-14-R27242 “Olympiad Supreme,” is bred from an exclusive pairing between a top son of Olympiad 003 and a special daughter of the world-famous Di Caprio. Her dam, GBV-19-75812 “Golden Girl,” achieved 2nd Federation against 2,002 pigeons from only three races and became the mother of “Maxine,” a multiple Federation performer. Lady Supreme’s pedigree also contains Golden Sagan and the exceptional Derek Walsh “Booted Hen,” a proven breeder of a 1st Federation winner against 3,323 pigeons.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	rolien-kingoutlook-com	R5,500	Current bid: R8,500
15th September 2026 21:42	LOT 97 KAROO MILLION OLR-THEO & STAN-2291 NPS 2025 –	tristan	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
15th September 2026 21:22	LOT 20 KAROO MILLION OLR – DR GAVIN ROUS-927 CAS 2026 -BARCELONA BAKKIE WINNER——-SIRE:26 24.BRED BY ROB POLEY FROM PIGEONS OF DR PIET VAN ZYL THIS COCKS FIRST YOUNGSTER IS A BAKKIE WINNER. FULL BROTHER TO DAM OF DINOKENG OLR FINAL WINNER 2026 FOR HARRY WILLSON.—————DAM:2708 24 ZA.FULL SISTER TO SALVA ROSE BRED BY RAM ANNANDALE SALVO ROSE FLEW IST 480KM,6TH 330 KM 13TH 280 KM SALVA ROSE ONE OF 3 PIGEONS IN AFRIKAPRO HISTORY TO BECOMEA3X AFRIKAPRO WINNER EQUAL WINNER PLACING 16 13 AND AVERAGE 2.18SEС BEHIND 1ST PLACE IN RACE 4 RACE 6 AND RACE 8 AFRIKAPRO 25 FULL SIS TO GRACE MOTHER TO 8 36 51 59 AFRIKA PRO 25 2708 FIRST YOUNGSTER IS A BAKKIE WINNER CRADOCK MILLION BARCELONA OVER 855KM.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	cole	R20,500	Current bid: R20,500
15th September 2026 21:14	ZZ..LOT 108 KAROO MILLION OLR-FRANCOIS STEINMANN-2159 KHS 2025 –	leeirvinneels1gmail-com	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
15th September 2026 21:12	LOT 83 KAROO MILLION OLR-KWARRA & NAIDO LOFTS-15 K & N 2025 –	wolram	R3,000	Current bid: R3,000

Active Auction-Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2-----Thursday 7 July to Monday 11 July 2022(20:00)

.Lot 28 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 17 PWF 4608 BCPD H——-SIRE : PWF 09 ZA 10428. Sierens Verbruggen. IS BRED OUT OF WINNERS AND ACE PIGEONS.——DAM : PRPC 09 ZA 41276. JANSEN SUPREME. 4th Richmond , 13th LeeuGamka , 20th Bloemfontein , 23rd Windburg etc. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!