Active Auction-Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2-----Thursday 7 July to Monday 11 July 2022(20:00)

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.Lot 17 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 19 PRPC 22825 BC C————–SIRE : IHUS 18 IHUS 149930. Alias “THE WINNER” Strain: Ganus. Color: BB. HALF BROTHER TO JUNIOR2 5th PLACEMILLION DOLLAR RACE WINNER OF MERCEDES WINNING 110 000 Dollar———–DAM: PWF 17 ZA 10421. TOP RACER at DINOKENG ONE DAY RACING LOFTS. 2nd on Main race 6 SECONDS from bakkie win. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.Lot 19 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 19 PRPC 22441 BCWF C——-SIRE : PWF 16 ZAD 1011. SCHROYENS SUPER CRACK. SIRE “1578” IS THE BEST YOUNG BIRD IN CLUB and PRETORIA UNION and 3rd BEST YOUNG BIRD IN PRETORIA COMBINE. GRAND SIRE IS 07 SA 7970 IS A SON OF SANPO GOLD WINNER FOR DEAN JOOSTE 99 SA 2070 BEST 2 YEAR OLD BIRD in club and 2nd BEST PTA FED 94 SA 92397 IS BEST OVERALL BIRD IN CLUB AND PRETORIA FEDERATION.——–DAM: PWF 14 ZAD 0890. JANSEN SUPREME. 1st Colesberg , 2nd Cradock , 5th Colesberg , 9th Richmond. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,000 Auction finished Auction finished
.Lot 21 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 19 PRPC 22803 BB H———SIRE: PWF 14 ZA 03491. JANSEN SUPREME. ALL FLIGHT PIGEON, EXCELLENT BREEDER. ALFONSO KLAAS.———DAM: PWF 14 ZAD 1476. JANSEN SUPREME. EXCELLENT LONG DISTANCE RACER. 2nd Cradock , 2nd Leeugamka , 7th Cradock , 11th Noupoort , 27th Cradock etc. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,000 Auction finished Auction finished
.Lot 27 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 17 PWF 3946 BB H——-SIRE: PWF 14 ZA 03491. JANSEN SUPREME. ALL FLIGHT PIGEON, EXCELLENT BREEDER. ALFONSO KLAAS.——–DAM : VNRF 15 ZA 0481. HARDY KRUGER. DAM OF HOTSPOT WINNER AT VIC FALLS. DAM OF 2ND PLACE DINOKENG ONE RACE LOFTS, MISSED THE “BAKKIE FIRST PRICE” WITH 6 SECONDS. DAM OF 2ND PLACE IN MAIN RACE AT BLOEMFONTEIN CENTRAL PROVINCIAL LOFTS WINNING R50 000. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.Lot 28 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 17 PWF 4608 BCPD H——-SIRE : PWF 09 ZA 10428. Sierens Verbruggen. IS BRED OUT OF WINNERS AND ACE PIGEONS.——DAM : PRPC 09 ZA 41276. JANSEN SUPREME. 4th Richmond , 13th LeeuGamka , 20th Bloemfontein , 23rd Windburg etc. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!
Winning Bid: R1,500 Auction finished Auction finished

Date	Auction	Username	Bid	Status
29th August 2026 14:20	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R18,000	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 14:20	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	ghl	R17,500	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 14:19	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R17,000	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 14:19	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	ghl	R16,500	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 14:19	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	ghl	R15,500	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 14:19	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R16,000	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 14:19	LOT 36 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Greg Anderson 2-ZA PROT 0714 2025 -10TH HOTSPOT 1 EQUAL WINNER————SIRE:3099886 BE 24.DIRK VD BULCK.Velghe Pigeons -Brother Blizzard -Sister green eye -Olympic Kittel -Sagan -Greipel———-DAM:1918 CRU 24 BB Alwyn Bester Full SISTER ALMIRA 643(SOLD FOR R252 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON), SANPO Gold Medal overall 2001 + pigeons 2024.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	hpm	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
29th August 2026 14:19	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R15,000	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 14:19	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	ghl	R14,500	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 14:18	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R14,000	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 14:18	ZZ..LOT 119 SAIPR WINTER OLR -NINJA3-ZA VPU 2705 2025 -4TH HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER , 3RD HOTSPOT ACE BIRD ————SIRE:BE 24 3108660 GRIZZLE COCK –(SOLD FOR R59 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON) DOUBLE BLIZZARD – DOUBLE BLIZZARD: 1.NAT ACE KBDB SD’21. 1.WORLD BP FCI YB’21. 1.PROV ACE KBDB 2021————DAM:Dam: ZA 2021 ABL 600 F .ALWYN BESTER. SOLD FOR R125 000.00 BY TOPPIGEON. SIRE AND DAM SOLD FOR R580 000.00 ON TOPPIGEON. A proven Blue Bar racing hen: 4th Final, Dinokeng One Loft Race 2022 5th Ace Pigeon, Dinokeng 2022 Full sister to “Turbo Kittel”, a 6× SANPO Gold Medal winner in 2021 A valuable breeding hen combining proven one-loft racing performance with exceptional SANPO-winning genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	ghl	R13,500	Current bid: R18,000
29th August 2026 13:55	ZZ..LOT 103 SAIPR WINTER OLR -Ruan Fouche-WKU 640 2025 -SIRE: ABL 1265 – 24 Kittel, Best Kittel, Turbo Tom. Bought from Alwyn Bester in 2025. ————DAM:Dam: EDEN 7042-20 Wielietjies blood, Turbo Tom, Gaby. 8 th Barzalona Dinokeng race 725 km 58th Main race 655 km 85th Bloem 448 km Has bred numerous top racers for us in the NRHU and now in West Coast, especially on the tougher races. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	agh-pigeons	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
29th August 2026 13:55	LOT 34 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Marnes Nel-WPU 679 2025 -Sibling of the Super ace winner Victoria falls 2022, Love 3 now named Victory Love.—————-SIRE:2269 16 SRF.Alias “Father Love3” Strain: Jaco Graham Color: Blue Bar Father of Love 3, the 1st place Super ace and 4th place Grand averages Victoria falls 2022. Bred by Jaco Graham. 2nd best pigeon on points as a year old in 2017 in the WPU union. SAMDPR winner on mother side, from the lofts of Mark Kitchenbrand.————DAM:2420 18 WPU .Alias “Mother Love3” Strain: Marnes Nel Color: Blue Bar Mother of the 1st place Super ace and 4th place Grand averages Victoria falls 2022. She was the year old pigeon with the most points in the WPU union in 2019. Father 2443 WPU D 2016 was the year old pigeon with the most points in 2017 and in 2018 WPU.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	ghl	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
29th August 2026 13:49	ZZ..LOT 124 SAIPR WINTER OLR -JAN HOOYMANS 2-NL 25 1381014 –	agh-pigeons	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
29th August 2026 13:47	LOT 67 SAIPR WINTER OLR – LOFT EINKAMERER 2-ZA EIN 285 2025 -SIRE:ZA 23 EINK 285.EINKAMERER.———–Dam: 977 SRPV 19 “Lady Friezaro” Einkamerer. Bred out of the best of Koopman Dirkje , Hooymans Harry Daughter , Harry Brother , Son Kanibaal , Gaby Vandenabeele Jonge Bliksem , Pieter Veenstra Dolcevita / Davinci. SEE PEDIGREE!!!	agh-pigeons	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
29th August 2026 13:40	.LOT 4 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Highlander Lofts-TRPF 5978 2025 -SIRE:18406 TRPF 19 ZA.Strain: HIGHLANDER REDS Color: Blue Bar White Flt GREAT RACER 10 X WINNER FED WINNER, SCORING 39 FED POSITIONS IN HIS RACING CARREER, 9 TIMES IN TOP 10, AND 16 TIMES TOP 15.————DAM:0202 ZULU 18 ZA.Strain: M. AELBRECHT/ DE RAUW SABLON.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	geronimo	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
29th August 2026 13:33	LOT 59 SAIPR WINTER OLR – PAINTER & ULLRICH-ZA NDK 1278 2025 -“LADY PURPOSE “is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025. This hen was a superb racer at Saipr Winter 2026. She scored the following positions during the Grand Averages series: 10th, 12th, 14th, 33rd (all 4 X 1st drop) and 26th, 43rd and 57th on the Final. She ended the series as 42nd Ace Pigeon out of the original intake of 816 Pigeons. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” is a SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019. He is without a doubt in the Top 3 breeding cocks in South Africa. Not only did he sire the Afrikapro Winner but also 5th Green Jacket Afrikapro 2024. “DUAL PURPOSE” is sire to 14 individual winners including 5 individual Union Winners. Several of his offspring are already in the super-breeder class most notably 296/20 who is mother to Bennie Smit’s 4 X Union/TRPF Winner. The dam of “LADY PURPOSE” is “WHENNY”. She, is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. Not only is “WHENNY” the mother to the Afrikapro Winner but another of her sons “WHIPROOIJ” was twice first drop at Afrikapro 2023 scoring 2nd & 3rd on Race 7 and 12 respectivly.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	cornevanoeverenoutlook-com	R20,000	Current bid: R20,000
29th August 2026 13:33	LOT 59 SAIPR WINTER OLR – PAINTER & ULLRICH-ZA NDK 1278 2025 -“LADY PURPOSE “is a full sister to “MICHELANGELO’S PURPOSE”, 1st place Final Afrikapro 2025. This hen was a superb racer at Saipr Winter 2026. She scored the following positions during the Grand Averages series: 10th, 12th, 14th, 33rd (all 4 X 1st drop) and 26th, 43rd and 57th on the Final. She ended the series as 42nd Ace Pigeon out of the original intake of 816 Pigeons. Her sire, “DUAL PURPOSE” is a SANPO Silver & Bronze Medal Short Distance Winner 2019. He is without a doubt in the Top 3 breeding cocks in South Africa. Not only did he sire the Afrikapro Winner but also 5th Green Jacket Afrikapro 2024. “DUAL PURPOSE” is sire to 14 individual winners including 5 individual Union Winners. Several of his offspring are already in the super-breeder class most notably 296/20 who is mother to Bennie Smit’s 4 X Union/TRPF Winner. The dam of “LADY PURPOSE” is “WHENNY”. She, is a direct daughter of MIRACLE BREEDER “BLUE WHIP” out of “JENNY”, one of the best racers ever in the Western Cape. Not only is “WHENNY” the mother to the Afrikapro Winner but another of her sons “WHIPROOIJ” was twice first drop at Afrikapro 2023 scoring 2nd & 3rd on Race 7 and 12 respectivly.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	ratelpost	R20,000	Current bid: R20,000
29th August 2026 13:17	LOT 46 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Nico Muller-ZA TPA 9790 2025 -8TH GRAND AVERAGES—3RD HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER—–SIRE:4407 PRPC 19 ZA .Color: Red Check Top breeding cock from my No 1 Bussheart pair ( Albert & 18159) Brother to many breeders of winners and related to my best racers 4407 Bred winner and many top racers with different hens – 4094/23 – “Night flyer” Only bird on the day from Vic West 2024 – 9790/25 – 8th Ace Bird Saipr 2026 – 6408/24 – Best 2025 young bird in my loft (Scored 7 times in 8 races) – 2529/22 – Lost by 1 sec – 12001/25 – 2nd TPA Breeder stakes.———–DAM:43000 17 ZA.Strain: Acke / Southee Color: Blue Bar. GOOD MIDDLE TO LONG DISTANCE RACER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	geronimo	R2,000	Current bid: R2,500
29th August 2026 13:17	LOT 46 SAIPR WINTER OLR – Nico Muller-ZA TPA 9790 2025 -8TH GRAND AVERAGES—3RD HOTSPOT 3 EQUAL WINNER—–SIRE:4407 PRPC 19 ZA .Color: Red Check Top breeding cock from my No 1 Bussheart pair ( Albert & 18159) Brother to many breeders of winners and related to my best racers 4407 Bred winner and many top racers with different hens – 4094/23 – “Night flyer” Only bird on the day from Vic West 2024 – 9790/25 – 8th Ace Bird Saipr 2026 – 6408/24 – Best 2025 young bird in my loft (Scored 7 times in 8 races) – 2529/22 – Lost by 1 sec – 12001/25 – 2nd TPA Breeder stakes.———–DAM:43000 17 ZA.Strain: Acke / Southee Color: Blue Bar. GOOD MIDDLE TO LONG DISTANCE RACER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500

Active Auction-Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2-----Thursday 7 July to Monday 11 July 2022(20:00)

.Lot 28 Reynders & Umberti July Auction 2 ZA 17 PWF 4608 BCPD H——-SIRE : PWF 09 ZA 10428. Sierens Verbruggen. IS BRED OUT OF WINNERS AND ACE PIGEONS.——DAM : PRPC 09 ZA 41276. JANSEN SUPREME. 4th Richmond , 13th LeeuGamka , 20th Bloemfontein , 23rd Windburg etc. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!!!