ACTIVE AUCTION - NORMAN PHILLIPS - FROM 18 JULY TO SUNDAY 21 JULY 2024 (ENDS FROM 13:25)

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.LOT 1 NORMAN PHILLIPS – ZA 18 MOUN 810 —–He bred ZA 2487/21 6th Dinokeng Final 2022——SCORED 11 X CLUB , 10 X UNION, 10 X COMBINE 11 OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE WINNERS, 7 UNION WINNERS AND 6 COMBINE WINNERS————–SIRE:NL 12 1784280.Alias “”ALLES ACHT”” Strain: JAN HOOYMANS Color: BLUE BAR DNA CERTIFIED ONE OF THE BEST HOOYMANS BREEDING COCKS IN SA “ALLES ACHT” SIRE OF 12 WINNERS 7 UNION WINNERS AND 6 PTA-COMBINE WINNERS WITH TWO HENS. HIS BABIES FLY FROM 300KM TO 800KM AND STIL WIN THE COMBINE, SOME PERFORMANCE OF HIS BABIES ZA13 03405 1ST CLUB,1ST UNION.————-DAM:BELG 12 3113527 . Alias “SUPER GIRL” Strain: RIK COOLS Color: BLUE BAR DNA CERTIFIED AND SUPER BREEDER DAM TO: 10 WINNERS, 6 UNION WINNERS, 5 COMBINE WINNERS ZA13 03405 1ST CLUB,1ST UNION,2ND COMBINE QUEENSTOWN 704KM 1724 PIGEONS ZA14 MOUNT 316 1ST CLUB, 1ST UNION, 1ST COMBINE WINBURG 339KM 2066 PIGEONS ZA14 MOUNT 219 2ND CLUB,2ND.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R7,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 3 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 21 BORD 4178 -SIRE: ZA 12 40047 . VANDENABEELE / TWILIGHT. THIS COCK IS BRED OUT OF THE BEST VANDENABEELE BLOOD OF BERTUS NEL.——DAM:ZA 20 BORD 1037 . FULL SISTER TO 2ND ACE DIAZ OLR 2021 . DAM TO 2ND ACE EASTERN CAPE OLR. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
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.LOT 4 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 20 BORD 1037 -SIRE: ZA 12 40047 . VANDENABEELE / TWILIGHT. THIS COCK IS BRED OUT OF THE BEST VANDENABEELE BLOOD OF BERTUS NEL.——DAM:BE 2131384 19 . GABY VANDENABEELE. DAM TO 2ND ACE DIAZ 2021 ,. THIS IS A DIRECT GRAND DAUGHTER TO WORLD FAMOUS”RUDY”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R2,000 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 5 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 18 MOUN 808 –She bred ZA 4819/23 2nd Diaz Loft 2024 352km 1021 mpm Arrived on her own—FULL SISTER TO 11 CLUB WINNERS 6 UNION WINNERS AND 5 PTACOMBINE WINNERS AS WELL AS OUR SANDTON R5.000 RING WINNER RACED BY GYS LOUW——–SIRE:NL 12 1784280.Alias “”ALLES ACHT”” Strain: JAN HOOYMANS Color: BLUE BAR DNA CERTIFIED ONE OF THE BEST HOOYMANS BREEDING COCKS IN SA “ALLES ACHT” SIRE OF 12 WINNERS 7 UNION WINNERS AND 6 PTA-COMBINE WINNERS WITH TWO HENS. HIS BABIES FLY FROM 300KM TO 800KM AND STIL WIN THE COMBINE, SOME PERFORMANCE OF HIS BABIES ZA13 03405 1ST CLUB,1ST UNION.————-DAM:BELG 12 3113527 . Alias “SUPER GIRL” Strain: RIK COOLS Color: BLUE BAR DNA CERTIFIED AND SUPER BREEDER DAM TO: 10 WINNERS, 6 UNION WINNERS, 5 COMBINE WINNERS ZA13 03405 1ST CLUB,1ST UNION,2ND COMBINE QUEENSTOWN 704KM 1724 PIGEONS ZA14 MOUNT 316 1ST CLUB, 1ST UNION, 1ST COMBINE WINBURG 339KM 2066 PIGEONS ZA14 MOUNT 219 2ND CLUB,2ND.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R7,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 6 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 18 111458 -Super Breeder & Racer 1. Border Union Winner 475 km Dam = BB Pied Hen ZA 4471 /20 1. Dinokeng Final 2021 (Won R300 000) 3. Race 2 ( 3 birds away ) 7. Race 1 (Dropped with winner )———————–SIRE:53808 ZA 14 DIAZ COCK De Rauw Sablon X Tom Lock 1. Ace Bird Diaz Loft 2015 3 . Acebird Avg. Velocity 4. Final Race 635 km 1334 m/m Sired = BBP Hen ZA 111458/18 Border Homing Union Winner Dam = BBP Hen ZA 4471 /20 1. Dinokeng Final Race 2021.——————–DAM:12545 GB 12 JUNIOR OLYMPIADE De Rauw Sablon X Janssen Imported by Mike Engelbrecht Super Breeder 1.BHU Union New Hanover 473 km 1.EL Combine Vryheid 645 km 1.EL Combine Oudtshoorn 532 km 1.EL Combine Graaf Reniet 320 km.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
Winning Bid: R5,000 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 7 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 18 TRPF 4706 —-Bred ZA 2495/21 8th Ace Bird Diaz 2022 Flew 6 x Top 50 2nd Race 5 380km 1205m/m 16th Race 2 305km 1122 m/m—-Flew at Carnival One Loft 2019 6. Acebird,8. Acebird Vel,12 Final –FATHER OF:— * 2495/21: 8. Ace Bird Diaz Loft 2022 Flew 6 x first 50 2. Race 5 380 km 1205 m/m 16. Race 2 305 km 1122 m/m———————————–SIRE:10715 TRPF 17 Colour: BB Gaston Van De Wouwer Kaasboer Bloodline (G.)FATHER OF:– *2495/21: 8. Ace Bird DIaz Loft 2022 Flew 6 x First 50 2. Race 5 380 km 1205 m/m *1031/23: 10. Ace Bird Diaz Babies 2023 1. Race 6 440 km 1259 m/m.———–DAM:488 ZA LIM 16 GIRLY Colour: BB Orig: Gaddin (G.)MOTHER OF:– * 2495/21: 8. Ace Bird Diaz 2022 Flew 6 x First 50 2. Race 5 380 km 1205 m/m *1031/23: 10. Ace Bird Diaz Babies 2023 1. Race 6 440 km 1259 m/m.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
Winning Bid: R2,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 8 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 17 0483 -Flew Diaz One Loft 2018 5. Race 8 525 km 1177 m/m 10. Final Race 635 km 1221 m/m———-SIRE:1711491 NL 15 LUCKY 91 Colour: BB De Rauw Sablon Super Breeder Sired the following: B/Bar Hen ZA 4471/20 1. Dinokeng Final Race 2021 B/Bar Hen ZA 0483/17 5. Diaz 525 km 1177 m/m 10.Diaz Final Race 635 km 1221 m/.———–DAM:41070 ZA 12 ROUS HEN De Rauw Sablon x Tom Lock Super Racer & Breeder 3. Diaz Final Greytown 635 km 2013 Scored 2,3,9,15,20 & 23 in 10 races Dam = BB Cock ZA 53808 /14 1. Ace Bird Diaz One Loft 2015 4. Final Race Greytown 635 km Dam = BB Hen ZA 0483 /17 10. Final Race Diaz 635 km 1137 m/m.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
Winning Bid: R5,500 Auction finished Auction finished
LOT 10 NORMAN PHILLIPS – ZA 19 BORD 483 BBAR – These were the last 3 long races. Final Race 15th 635km 1128 m/m Race 8 13th 525km 1030 m/m Race 6 10th 440km 1006 m/m.——————-SIRE:05045 BORD 13.Super Breeder G.Son of “Tarzan” Clicks “Breitenbach Hen” –RESULTS DIAZ ONE LOFT:– 10,23,52 Final 635 km ’16 1106mpm 1. Knockout Winner 3. Ace Pigeon Velocity 18. Final Race 635km ’18 1221mpm 2. Knockout Winne.——————-DAM:ZA 15 MOUN 00932. MOUNTAIN LOFTS. 2 X WINNER. HER SIRE IS A DOUBLE FED WINNER.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R2,000 Auction finished Auction finished

Date	Auction	Username	Bid	Status
9th October 2025 22:47	LOT 18 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – Out of Africa Lofts-REN LOFT 24 134 -SIRE:1373 / 2022 Best stassard line in my loft his children is doing well at OLR.———–DAM:449 / 2021 She is 2 times fed winner from the best birds of Ferdie Lubbe Pretoria Mountain lofts.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	cyril	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
9th October 2025 22:41	LOT 58 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR-Shahzad Family Loft-SHAZ 24 86 -SIRE:ZA 23 OP 19311 NAME: Birdie FAMILY: Shahzad Family loft COLOR: Blue Check 5th, first drop hotspot 2 1428b,15th Ace CPL 2023! From his first babies he bred “Aslis Berry” 8th (equal winner) hotspot 6 330km 1141 vel, 2155 birds. One of the hardest race in AfrikaPro history, 26th hotsopt 9, 480km, vel 1716, 1753 birds. “Hard Aces” 17th, hotspot 1 264km 1399b, 39th sprint 2, 160km, 49th final 596km, “YEE” 46th final 596km 935b, Cpl 2024. “SHAZ 53” 5th Race 1 196km 1506 vel, CTI WINTER 2025..—————-DAM:ZA 21 TRPF 11772 NAME: Dragon Queen FAMILY: Dijkistra Tournier COLOR: BlueBar Cousin of “Silver Flash” carnival summer final winner. Mother of “Foreign Courier” 3 time equal hotshot winner, 2nd Ace, 2nd grand averages.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	liuaitao520163-com	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
9th October 2025 21:47	LOT 19 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – German Power-KUYS 24 65 -1ST ACE PIGEON . RACE 7 WINNER———–SIRE:ZA-2022-GRPF-4360 Jan van den Bos Blue ”Topside” Genetics of “Kleine Dirk” x “Annelies” ”Kleine Dirk” Fenomenale vlieger, • 5e Worldchamp young 1998. • 1e Nat. Ace Netherlands 1999. ============DAM:ZA-2022-OPU-1441 “BLACK MAGIC” Charl Kruger Blue • 5e Ace Central Prov. Lofts 2023. • 19e Race 4 Central Prov. Lofts 2023.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	fishing	R7,500	Current bid: R7,500
9th October 2025 21:46	LOT 19 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – German Power-KUYS 24 65 -1ST ACE PIGEON . RACE 7 WINNER———–SIRE:ZA-2022-GRPF-4360 Jan van den Bos Blue ”Topside” Genetics of “Kleine Dirk” x “Annelies” ”Kleine Dirk” Fenomenale vlieger, • 5e Worldchamp young 1998. • 1e Nat. Ace Netherlands 1999. ============DAM:ZA-2022-OPU-1441 “BLACK MAGIC” Charl Kruger Blue • 5e Ace Central Prov. Lofts 2023. • 19e Race 4 Central Prov. Lofts 2023.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	fishing	R6,500	Current bid: R7,500
9th October 2025 21:46	LOT 19 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – German Power-KUYS 24 65 -1ST ACE PIGEON . RACE 7 WINNER———–SIRE:ZA-2022-GRPF-4360 Jan van den Bos Blue ”Topside” Genetics of “Kleine Dirk” x “Annelies” ”Kleine Dirk” Fenomenale vlieger, • 5e Worldchamp young 1998. • 1e Nat. Ace Netherlands 1999. ============DAM:ZA-2022-OPU-1441 “BLACK MAGIC” Charl Kruger Blue • 5e Ace Central Prov. Lofts 2023. • 19e Race 4 Central Prov. Lofts 2023.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R7,000	Current bid: R7,500
9th October 2025 21:45	LOT 19 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – German Power-KUYS 24 65 -1ST ACE PIGEON . RACE 7 WINNER———–SIRE:ZA-2022-GRPF-4360 Jan van den Bos Blue ”Topside” Genetics of “Kleine Dirk” x “Annelies” ”Kleine Dirk” Fenomenale vlieger, • 5e Worldchamp young 1998. • 1e Nat. Ace Netherlands 1999. ============DAM:ZA-2022-OPU-1441 “BLACK MAGIC” Charl Kruger Blue • 5e Ace Central Prov. Lofts 2023. • 19e Race 4 Central Prov. Lofts 2023.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R6,000	Current bid: R7,500
9th October 2025 21:45	LOT 19 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – German Power-KUYS 24 65 -1ST ACE PIGEON . RACE 7 WINNER———–SIRE:ZA-2022-GRPF-4360 Jan van den Bos Blue ”Topside” Genetics of “Kleine Dirk” x “Annelies” ”Kleine Dirk” Fenomenale vlieger, • 5e Worldchamp young 1998. • 1e Nat. Ace Netherlands 1999. ============DAM:ZA-2022-OPU-1441 “BLACK MAGIC” Charl Kruger Blue • 5e Ace Central Prov. Lofts 2023. • 19e Race 4 Central Prov. Lofts 2023.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	fishing	R5,500	Current bid: R7,500
9th October 2025 21:45	LOT 19 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – German Power-KUYS 24 65 -1ST ACE PIGEON . RACE 7 WINNER———–SIRE:ZA-2022-GRPF-4360 Jan van den Bos Blue ”Topside” Genetics of “Kleine Dirk” x “Annelies” ”Kleine Dirk” Fenomenale vlieger, • 5e Worldchamp young 1998. • 1e Nat. Ace Netherlands 1999. ============DAM:ZA-2022-OPU-1441 “BLACK MAGIC” Charl Kruger Blue • 5e Ace Central Prov. Lofts 2023. • 19e Race 4 Central Prov. Lofts 2023.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R5,000	Current bid: R7,500
9th October 2025 21:45	LOT 19 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – German Power-KUYS 24 65 -1ST ACE PIGEON . RACE 7 WINNER———–SIRE:ZA-2022-GRPF-4360 Jan van den Bos Blue ”Topside” Genetics of “Kleine Dirk” x “Annelies” ”Kleine Dirk” Fenomenale vlieger, • 5e Worldchamp young 1998. • 1e Nat. Ace Netherlands 1999. ============DAM:ZA-2022-OPU-1441 “BLACK MAGIC” Charl Kruger Blue • 5e Ace Central Prov. Lofts 2023. • 19e Race 4 Central Prov. Lofts 2023.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	fishing	R4,500	Current bid: R7,500
9th October 2025 21:20	LOT 19 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – German Power-KUYS 24 65 -1ST ACE PIGEON . RACE 7 WINNER———–SIRE:ZA-2022-GRPF-4360 Jan van den Bos Blue ”Topside” Genetics of “Kleine Dirk” x “Annelies” ”Kleine Dirk” Fenomenale vlieger, • 5e Worldchamp young 1998. • 1e Nat. Ace Netherlands 1999. ============DAM:ZA-2022-OPU-1441 “BLACK MAGIC” Charl Kruger Blue • 5e Ace Central Prov. Lofts 2023. • 19e Race 4 Central Prov. Lofts 2023.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	karenbeneke3gmail-com	R4,000	Current bid: R7,500
9th October 2025 21:17	LOT 23 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – Toppigeon/Beneke Lofts-SANPO 24 25951 -SIRE: ZA 23 NRHU 2540 . BEST KITTEL. HIS SIRE IS A DIRECT SON TO BEST KITTEL. HIS DAM IS A DIRECT DAUGHTER TO JUNIOR AND JUNIOR IS A DIRECT SON TO BEST KITTEL.—————-DAM:ZA 21 NOVP 601 . ACES RACING PIGEONS (BOUGHT FOR R27 000) . THIS HEN IS BRED OUT OF JAZZMANN WHO WAS BOUGHT FOR R630 000 . HIS SIRE IS RAVEN (NO.1 BREEDING COCK FOR MIKE GANUS).SEE PEDIGREE!!!	jaques	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
9th October 2025 21:14	LOT 19 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – German Power-KUYS 24 65 -1ST ACE PIGEON . RACE 7 WINNER———–SIRE:ZA-2022-GRPF-4360 Jan van den Bos Blue ”Topside” Genetics of “Kleine Dirk” x “Annelies” ”Kleine Dirk” Fenomenale vlieger, • 5e Worldchamp young 1998. • 1e Nat. Ace Netherlands 1999. ============DAM:ZA-2022-OPU-1441 “BLACK MAGIC” Charl Kruger Blue • 5e Ace Central Prov. Lofts 2023. • 19e Race 4 Central Prov. Lofts 2023.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	jaques	R3,500	Current bid: R7,500
9th October 2025 21:14	LOT 15 MID OCTOBER –NL 17 1672222 -DAM TO 2023 DINOKENG BARZALONA WINNER FOR PHILLIPS & ENGELBRECHT WINNING R200 000.00 —First baby raced Diaz One Loft 2023 Race 4: B/C ZA 3285 15th 440km / 1126 mpm—SIRE: NL 14 1068230 . MR EVERLING DREAM. SON OLYMPIC FROOME / OLYMPIC SHARON. DIRECT SON OF THE 2 OLYMPIC PIGEONS OF THE NETHERLANDS.——DAMl NL 09 1490366 “MAGIC 366”. HUUB HERMANS. BRED OUTOF AN INBRED KANIBAAL.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	louis	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
9th October 2025 21:06	.LOT 9 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – Nico & Justin-BPFD 25 1526 -4th ACE BIRD , 3RD RACE 6 EQUAL WINNER———-SIRE:NL 24 8397718.Alias “BATENBURG COCK” Color: Blue Check 19th Race 4 Afrikaproо 2024 54th Race 5 Afrikapro 2024 Nestmate ‘8397719’ flew 11th Race 9 Afrikapro 2024 42nd Race 6 Afrikapro 2024 53rd Race 4 Afrikapro 2024 ‘8397718’ is Sire to ZA 25 BPFD 1526 4th ACE Carnival Winter One Loft 2025..———-DAM:ZA 23 VPU 8003 Strain: 810/TOM LOCK/VRC Color: Blue Bar Damto 4th Ace Carnival Winter Loff 2025 (ZA 25 BPFD 1526). 8003 is a very good hen, Very good throat Linebred to ZA 17 0OA 007 – “DAM OF THE NEW DREAMCOUPLE SUPER PAIR” for Y KHAN, and now back ar OOA LOFTS. 9 ofher children with SVPV 2183/16 are top and superbreeders.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	infoasakhe-co-za	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
9th October 2025 21:04	.LOT 1 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – Hendrik & Daniel Moller-FB 24 19625 – 7e – Hanover 630 km FINAL!!————SIRE:ZA-GPU-20-11293.OSWOLLY/GANUS.Perfect – Looks like his mother “OSWOLLY”.————–DAM:ZA-GPU-17-08416.GOLDEN CARELLY ACE LINE.5 X ACES. Linebred to various ACE pigeons, aswell No.1 stock cock BELG4018079/09 – GOLDEN CARELLY.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	jaques	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
9th October 2025 21:03	LOT 45 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – Central Bridge-EDEN 24 4370 -8TH FINAL—-	infoasakhe-co-za	R4,000	Current bid: R4,000
9th October 2025 21:02	.LOT 9 MID OCTOBER – ZA 24 KPU 1694 -SIRE: ZA 23 NRHU 2540 . BEST KITTEL. HIS SIRE IS A DIRECT SON TO BEST KITTEL. HIS DAM IS A DIRECT DAUGHTER TO JUNIOR AND JUNIOR IS A DIRECT SON TO BEST KITTEL.—————-DAM:ZA 21 NOVP 601 . ACES RACING PIGEONS (BOUGHT FOR R27 000) . THIS HEN IS BRED OUT OF JAZZMANN WHO WAS BOUGHT FOR R630 000 . HIS SIRE IS RAVEN (NO.1 BREEDING COCK FOR MIKE GANUS).SEE PEDIGREE!!!	jaques	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
9th October 2025 20:59	.LOT 1 MID OCTOBER – BE 19 4136229 “LOTUS MEIRLAEN”. ORIGINAL ROGER DEBUSSCHERE. —SIRE: F 16 21837 “LOTUS”. MARGRIS A & P. 2ND EUROPEAN ACE BIRD 2018.2ND NAT ACE 750KM +. 2ND NAT ACE. —–DAM: BE 18 4216312 . ETIENNE MEIRLAEN. DAUGHTER OF ACE PAIR. DAM ISDAUGHTER OF ACE PAIR. FULL SIBLING FLEW 3RD NAT , 6TH NAT , 11TH NAT , 13TH NAT.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	jaques	R1,500	Current bid: R1,500
9th October 2025 20:54	LOT 30 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – Roberto & Boesman-CARNIVAL 24 1012 -2ND FINAL———-SIRE:ZA 2023 CYRIL 119 2 One Loft Aces Carnival Summer 2024 Ace Bird M Klingbiel Aiwyn Bester Lofts Herman Van Rensburg.————DAM:ZA 2018 OERF 0584 Spritzy / Bak 17 2019 1st Fed Dewetsdorp 2nd Combine Gauteng.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	johan16	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
9th October 2025 20:52	LOT 25 CARNIVAL LOFTS OLR – Pennington Lofts-NPN 24 4419 -3RD FINAL——SIRE:ZA 22 VPU 9689. GRIZZLE.GRANDCHILD TO AMERIOS 1 AND AMERIOS 3.—-–DAM:2441 ZA 20 GRPC. SIRE IS 1ST CARNIVAL ACE PIGEON 2017. SEE PEDIGREE!!	johan16	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000

ACTIVE AUCTION - NORMAN PHILLIPS - FROM 18 JULY TO SUNDAY 21 JULY 2024 (ENDS FROM 13:25)

.LOT 3 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 21 BORD 4178 -SIRE: ZA 12 40047 . VANDENABEELE / TWILIGHT. THIS COCK IS BRED OUT OF THE BEST VANDENABEELE BLOOD OF BERTUS NEL.——DAM:ZA 20 BORD 1037 . FULL SISTER TO 2ND ACE DIAZ OLR 2021 . DAM TO 2ND ACE EASTERN CAPE OLR. SEE PEDIGREE!!!!

.LOT 4 NORMAN PHILLIPS -ZA 20 BORD 1037 -SIRE: ZA 12 40047 . VANDENABEELE / TWILIGHT. THIS COCK IS BRED OUT OF THE BEST VANDENABEELE BLOOD OF BERTUS NEL.——DAM:BE 2131384 19 . GABY VANDENABEELE. DAM TO 2ND ACE DIAZ 2021 ,. THIS IS A DIRECT GRAND DAUGHTER TO WORLD FAMOUS”RUDY”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!