ACTIVE AUCTION - KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 - FROM 25 OCTOBER TO WEDNESDAY 29 OCTOBER 2025 (ENDING FROM 20:00)

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.LOT 1 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 – NL 22 8235302 -DAM TO 18TH GREEN JACKET AFRIKAPRO 2025 —Alias “DOUBLE GOLD DUST III” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: B BAR PIED HALF BROTHER HALF SISTER GOLD DUST BEST BREEDING SISTER KITTEL IN THE WORLD. BRED FROM A SON AND DAUGHTER TO “GOLD DUST”. SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R17,001 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 2 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 -ZA 25 TURFPET 4631 -SIRE: 9252 ZA 24 GPU.Alias “CHILD RED KITTEL CHANTEL” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar White Flt Bred for stock. Sire, CHILD RED KITTEL father to ZA GPU 2989 ’23 DTR CHILD RED KITTEL, 2nd ACE PIGEON DINOKENG OLR 2024.———–DAM: 9265 ZA 24 GPU.Alias “LAST DTR CHANTEL” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar Bred for stock. Sire, DANIE’s SUPER V DEN BULCK, full brother to ZA ABL 167 ’21 for DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS that bred 8 X SANPO medal winner, 6 GOLD, 1 SILWER AND 1 BRONZE – TURBO KITTEL, World Allround Best Bird 2021. Dam, CHANTEL bred by Marcel Sangers. Double granddaughter from BROTHER GOEDE RODE, OLYMPIC ROSITA.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R13,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 3 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 – NL 24 8621121 -SIRE:19-2146086 M RED WHITE DIAMOND 86 F.B.I Racing & Breed Red Pied (Roodbont) (HALF) SISTER TO: *BE17-4231910 “MR FOX” SIRE OF WINNING YOUNG BIRDS IN BELGIUM BEFORE MOVING TO THE UK.—————DAM:NL NL 18-1630233 V “HANOI” Sangers Pigeons Blue Pied (B1 Bont) Inbred “Broer Goede Rode” Brother Father To: Euromax 091/21 2. Federation 3,068b arrived with the winner.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R8,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 4 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 -ZA 25 TURFPET 4638 -Brother x Sister mating bred from Super Kittel Genetics!!—————SIRE: 9282 ZA 24 GPU .Alias “710 CHANTEL” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar Pied Bred for stock. Sire, DANIE’s SUPER V DEN BULCK, full brother to ZA ABL 167 ’21 for DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS that bred 8 X SANPO medal winner, 6 GOLD, 1 SILWER AND 1 BRONZE – TURBO KITTEL, World Allround Best Bird 2021. Dam, CHANTEL bred by Marcel Sangers. Double granddaughter from BROTHER GOEDE RODE, OLYMPIC ROSITA, ————DAM: 9300 ZA 24 GPU.Alias “SISTER 710 CHANTEL” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Black White Flt Bred for stock. Sire, DANIE’s SUPER V DEN BULCK, full brother to ZA ABL 167 ’21 for DU PREEZ & DEETLEFS that bred 8 X SANPO medal winner, 6 GOLD, 1 SILWER AND 1 BRONZE – TURBO KITTEL, World Allround Best Bird 2021. Dam, CHANTEL bred by Marcel Sangers. Double granddaughter from BROTHER GOEDE RODE, OLYMPIC ROSITA,.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
Winning Bid: R8,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 5 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 -NL 24 8248362 -SIRE:NL 21-1035767 MISTER KITTEL 767 100% DIRK V.D. BULCK.MISTER KITTEL 767 GRANDSON (INBRED) TO THE LEGEND IN MODERN PIGEONSPORT “DE KITTEL 18T NAT ACE. SPEED KBDB 2013 2ND WESTERN EUROPE ACK.DORTMUND 2014. 1ST NAT ACEPIGEON MEN ALLROUND..————DAM:NL 22-8282544 V GREIPEL HEN 544 DIRK VAN DEN BUICK RED WHITE GREIPEL HEN 544 SUPER INBRED TO THE WORLDFAMOUS SUPERSTAR GREIFEL SUPERSTAR ONE OF THE BEST FULL BROTHERS TO KITTEL. GREIPEL WON AO 1. Co winner.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R11,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 6 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 – ZA 25 TURFPET 4646 -SIRE:1161 ZA 23 ABL.Alias “DANIE’s RED VD BULCK” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: Red Check FATHER IS GRAND FATHER TO WORLD BEST ALLROUND BIRD 2021 “TURBO KITTEL”.—————DAM:1480 ZA 24 ABL. FULL SISTERS 167 , 168,518 WERE SOLD FOR R338 000.00 , R242 000.00 , R279 000.00. Alias “1480” Strain: Alwyn Bester Color: Red Check Full sister to TURBO KITTEL’s dam. SIRE: 63384 GB 18 V. Alias 63384. Grandfather to ZA PWDU 9849 2020, WORLD ALLROUND BEST BIRD 2021, who is also the 6 x SANPO Gold Medal winner 2021. Also grandfather to ZA PWDU 9060 2020 ,second best Middle distance pigeon PWDU. DAM: 1418637 NLD 19. Grandmother to ZA PWDU 9849 2020, WORLD ALLROUND BEST BIRD 2021, who also is the 6 x SANPO GOLD MEDAL Winner 2021.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R20,500 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 7 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 – DV 07364 24 1036 -SIRE:BE16-6278129 V.orig. Dirk Van den Bulck Chequered Son Copy Kittel 994 Grandson Goed Rood 008.———–DAM:07364-16-2051 W MEALY GOED ROOD 2051 Irmer & Sohn.aughter “Goed Rood” **G-Mother to:***** 06723-20-436 @D.Siebert 2. Ace Bird Kalimanci OLR 2020.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
Winning Bid: R8,000 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 8 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 -ZA 25 GPU 5490 -Bred from Super Kittel Genetics!!————-SIRE:73642172 21 DV.Alias “CHILD RED KITTEL” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: BLUE CHECK WF GRAND CHILD KITTEL. Bred by Irmer & Sohn. Sire to ZA GPU 2989 ’23 DTR CHILD RED KITTEL, 2nd ACE BIRD Dinokeng OLR 2024. ————DAM:8235302 NLD 22.Alias “DOUBLE GOLD DUST III” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: B BAR PIED HALF BROTHER HALF SISTER GOLD DUST BEST BREEDING SISTER KITTEL IN THE WORLD.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!
Winning Bid: R12,000 Auction finished Auction finished
.LOT 9 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 – DV 06289 24 224 -SIRE:NL-18-1632511 V.Dirk van Bulck/Sanger . Son from Bratt, Bratt ful brother to Kittel 1. Nat ace KBDB 2013 1.best sprint ace in KBDB history 1.———–DAM:NL-20-1779652 W Carmen Dirk Van den Bulck. DOUBLE GRAND DAUGHTER TO “BROER GOEDE RHODA.”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R7,000 Auction finished Auction finished
LOT 11 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 – NWHU 25 C 0515 -SIRE:IHUS 21 117690. BRED FROM SON AND DAUGHTER GRIEPEL AND SISTER OLYMPIC ROSITA.————-DAM:IHUS 21 117692 “HERBIE’S CHOICE”. THIS IS AN INBRED DOUBLE GRANDCHILD TO LEGENDARY “KITTEL”. SEE PEDIGREE!!!
Winning Bid: R15,500 Auction finished Auction finished

Date	Auction	Username	Bid	Status
21st January 2026 0:01	.LOT 2 BARGAIN BOX – ZA 23 CYRL 3471 -SIRE:888 ZA SRSP 20. EINKAMERER. DIRECT SON TO “LIAM” AND “APPLE 2”.———–DAM:71 ZA MPKD 21 KAASBOER X 810 SUPERBREEDER THIS IS A GRAND DAUGHTER TO THE WORLD FAMOUS “KIRAN”.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	burr	R500	Current bid: R500
20th January 2026 21:27	.LOT 7 BARGAIN BOX – ZA 25 FHC 1948 —-BRED BY FRED COETZER—-SIRE:2915 ZA 24 PWF .Strain: Kruger / Heremans Color: Blue Bar. DAM IS Alias “Martina” Strain: Schmidt And Bau Color: Blue Check Martina was bought from Manfred Schmidt and Martina Bau in Germany. Martina is a full sister of Willi the Father of the 2018/2019 SAMDPR Winner Premier my Price who won the final race at a speed of 1047 mpm. He was bought by Mike Ganus. The fact is that these pigeons are ACE pigeons for already four generations. SUPER PIGEONS. SUPER GENES..————-DAM:1199 ZA 22 FHC .Strain: Hardy Kruger Color: Blue Bar a Super inbred Hardy Kruger hen Bred for stock.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	dewittt006gmail-com	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
20th January 2026 13:14	.LOT 7 BARGAIN BOX – ZA 25 FHC 1948 —-BRED BY FRED COETZER—-SIRE:2915 ZA 24 PWF .Strain: Kruger / Heremans Color: Blue Bar. DAM IS Alias “Martina” Strain: Schmidt And Bau Color: Blue Check Martina was bought from Manfred Schmidt and Martina Bau in Germany. Martina is a full sister of Willi the Father of the 2018/2019 SAMDPR Winner Premier my Price who won the final race at a speed of 1047 mpm. He was bought by Mike Ganus. The fact is that these pigeons are ACE pigeons for already four generations. SUPER PIGEONS. SUPER GENES..————-DAM:1199 ZA 22 FHC .Strain: Hardy Kruger Color: Blue Bar a Super inbred Hardy Kruger hen Bred for stock.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	conradramsays-co-za	R1,500	Current bid: R2,000
20th January 2026 8:35	LOT 11 BARGAIN BOX -GB 22 N 28946 -SIRE:GB 20 N 82976. SIRE TO 1ST PATTAYA OLR 2021.————DAM:GB 20 N 82973.THE BEST OF NATIONAL WINNING LINE JANSENS.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	zwarts	R750	Current bid: R750
20th January 2026 7:46	.LOT 5 BARGAIN BOX -ZA 23 BENZ 3375 ——BRED BY RIAAN CARSTENS——SIRE:4846 ZA 19 VPU/D.Strain: Webster/Sablon Color: Blue Check One of my best breeding Cocks…Bred Benz 23… 5229.. Flew 4..4…8.. In The TPA 500 plus birds in 3 weeks. Bred Benz 24…4029…3RD 869 Birds Theunissen…6th 760 Birds Bloemfontein…37th…698 Birds Trompsburg….7th Best bird in TPA after 12 Weeks of Racing. Bred Benz 24..4042…Flew 6th Colesburg Derby 620 Birds.—————-DAM:2113 ZA 21 BENZ.Strain: LOCK/SABLON Color: Blue Bar IST DINOKENG BARZALONA BAKKIE RACE 18/09/2022 Winner of R200 000 Bred 4 babies in First year…All 4 scoring top 20 TРA. ZA 23 BENZ 5229 scoring 4-4–8 ТРА ZA 24 BENZ 4029 scoring 3….6 TРА.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	janean	R1,000	Current bid: R1,000
19th January 2026 20:34	.LOT 7 BARGAIN BOX – ZA 25 FHC 1948 —-BRED BY FRED COETZER—-SIRE:2915 ZA 24 PWF .Strain: Kruger / Heremans Color: Blue Bar. DAM IS Alias “Martina” Strain: Schmidt And Bau Color: Blue Check Martina was bought from Manfred Schmidt and Martina Bau in Germany. Martina is a full sister of Willi the Father of the 2018/2019 SAMDPR Winner Premier my Price who won the final race at a speed of 1047 mpm. He was bought by Mike Ganus. The fact is that these pigeons are ACE pigeons for already four generations. SUPER PIGEONS. SUPER GENES..————-DAM:1199 ZA 22 FHC .Strain: Hardy Kruger Color: Blue Bar a Super inbred Hardy Kruger hen Bred for stock.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	dewittt006gmail-com	R1,000	Current bid: R2,000
19th January 2026 18:38	.LOT 8 BARGAIN BOX – ZA 23 CYRL 6320 -–SIRE: ZA 19 OOA 580. SUPER HANDLER.HIGHLY RECOMMENDED HIS DIRECT G/PARENTS AND GREAT GRAND PARENTS HAS WON 3 DIFFERENT ONE LOFT FINALS AND ALSO LED TO THE BREEDING OF MIX 1ST SAMDPR FINAL 2018. BRED FROM 1ST CARNIVAL & 1ST DINOKENG GRANDSON TO OSWALLY .—-DAM: ZA 21 GJT 1271 . KAASBOER SABLON . HER SIRE WERE SOLD TO SAMUEL LOFTS FOR R20 000. THIS IS A DIRECT GRAND DAUGHTER TO “KIRAN”. SEE PEDIGREE!!!	geelhond	R500	Current bid: R500
19th January 2026 18:18	LOT 11 BARGAIN BOX -GB 22 N 28946 -SIRE:GB 20 N 82976. SIRE TO 1ST PATTAYA OLR 2021.————DAM:GB 20 N 82973.THE BEST OF NATIONAL WINNING LINE JANSENS.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	geelhond	R500	Current bid: R750
18th January 2026 17:54	LOT 26 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5683 -SIRE:ZA-2021-GPU-12863 Mc Dermott Lofts Kittel Bont Super Kittel Genetics! “Jardin” Daughter “Greipel” “Konica” Brother “Olympic-Rosita” “Son Vince” Inbred to “Kittel” “Double Rosita” “Dubbele Kittel” =============DAM:ZA-2024-OP-9311 Mc Dermott Lofts.Her father is a full brother “Turbo Kittel” • 1e Ace Pigeon FCI in the World!!!! • 5x Winner in his first year. • 1e Ace Bird Overall South Africa.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	marais-brothers	R7,500	Winning Bid: R7,500
18th January 2026 17:54	LOT 26 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5683 -SIRE:ZA-2021-GPU-12863 Mc Dermott Lofts Kittel Bont Super Kittel Genetics! “Jardin” Daughter “Greipel” “Konica” Brother “Olympic-Rosita” “Son Vince” Inbred to “Kittel” “Double Rosita” “Dubbele Kittel” =============DAM:ZA-2024-OP-9311 Mc Dermott Lofts.Her father is a full brother “Turbo Kittel” • 1e Ace Pigeon FCI in the World!!!! • 5x Winner in his first year. • 1e Ace Bird Overall South Africa.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	bennie	R7,000	Winning Bid: R7,500
18th January 2026 17:53	LOT 26 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5683 -SIRE:ZA-2021-GPU-12863 Mc Dermott Lofts Kittel Bont Super Kittel Genetics! “Jardin” Daughter “Greipel” “Konica” Brother “Olympic-Rosita” “Son Vince” Inbred to “Kittel” “Double Rosita” “Dubbele Kittel” =============DAM:ZA-2024-OP-9311 Mc Dermott Lofts.Her father is a full brother “Turbo Kittel” • 1e Ace Pigeon FCI in the World!!!! • 5x Winner in his first year. • 1e Ace Bird Overall South Africa.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	marais-brothers	R6,500	Winning Bid: R7,500
18th January 2026 17:49	LOT 26 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5683 -SIRE:ZA-2021-GPU-12863 Mc Dermott Lofts Kittel Bont Super Kittel Genetics! “Jardin” Daughter “Greipel” “Konica” Brother “Olympic-Rosita” “Son Vince” Inbred to “Kittel” “Double Rosita” “Dubbele Kittel” =============DAM:ZA-2024-OP-9311 Mc Dermott Lofts.Her father is a full brother “Turbo Kittel” • 1e Ace Pigeon FCI in the World!!!! • 5x Winner in his first year. • 1e Ace Bird Overall South Africa.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	bennie	R6,000	Winning Bid: R7,500
18th January 2026 17:48	LOT 20 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5654 -SIRE:ZA-2022-CRU-102.”BROTHER MIENKE”.Pigeon Palace.Brother to “Mienke” • 1e Final Dinokeng Big Money 2021. • 2e Final Barzalona Car Race 2021. One of the best ever at Dinokeng! Full brother to the mother of “Lara” • 1e Ace Blue Jacket Afrika Pro 2025. • 1e Ace Brown Jacket Afrika Pro 2025. • 3e Final Afrika Pro Series 601km 2025. Full brother to the mother of “Fiero” • 2e Final Afrika Pro Series 601km 2025. ====================DAM:ZA-2023-TRPF-12139 Mc Dermott Lofts Bont She is bred from: • 1e Final Saipr Winner 2022. • 1e Final Carnival Summer Winner. Same Family that won Diaz Lofts!! (for Johann Grobelaar).SEE PEDIGREE!!!	marais-brothers	R7,000	Winning Bid: R7,000
18th January 2026 17:47	LOT 20 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5654 -SIRE:ZA-2022-CRU-102.”BROTHER MIENKE”.Pigeon Palace.Brother to “Mienke” • 1e Final Dinokeng Big Money 2021. • 2e Final Barzalona Car Race 2021. One of the best ever at Dinokeng! Full brother to the mother of “Lara” • 1e Ace Blue Jacket Afrika Pro 2025. • 1e Ace Brown Jacket Afrika Pro 2025. • 3e Final Afrika Pro Series 601km 2025. Full brother to the mother of “Fiero” • 2e Final Afrika Pro Series 601km 2025. ====================DAM:ZA-2023-TRPF-12139 Mc Dermott Lofts Bont She is bred from: • 1e Final Saipr Winner 2022. • 1e Final Carnival Summer Winner. Same Family that won Diaz Lofts!! (for Johann Grobelaar).SEE PEDIGREE!!!	reeba	R6,500	Winning Bid: R7,000
18th January 2026 17:45	LOT 26 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5683 -SIRE:ZA-2021-GPU-12863 Mc Dermott Lofts Kittel Bont Super Kittel Genetics! “Jardin” Daughter “Greipel” “Konica” Brother “Olympic-Rosita” “Son Vince” Inbred to “Kittel” “Double Rosita” “Dubbele Kittel” =============DAM:ZA-2024-OP-9311 Mc Dermott Lofts.Her father is a full brother “Turbo Kittel” • 1e Ace Pigeon FCI in the World!!!! • 5x Winner in his first year. • 1e Ace Bird Overall South Africa.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	marais-brothers	R5,500	Winning Bid: R7,500
18th January 2026 17:44	LOT 26 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5683 -SIRE:ZA-2021-GPU-12863 Mc Dermott Lofts Kittel Bont Super Kittel Genetics! “Jardin” Daughter “Greipel” “Konica” Brother “Olympic-Rosita” “Son Vince” Inbred to “Kittel” “Double Rosita” “Dubbele Kittel” =============DAM:ZA-2024-OP-9311 Mc Dermott Lofts.Her father is a full brother “Turbo Kittel” • 1e Ace Pigeon FCI in the World!!!! • 5x Winner in his first year. • 1e Ace Bird Overall South Africa.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	bennie	R4,500	Winning Bid: R7,500
18th January 2026 17:44	LOT 26 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5683 -SIRE:ZA-2021-GPU-12863 Mc Dermott Lofts Kittel Bont Super Kittel Genetics! “Jardin” Daughter “Greipel” “Konica” Brother “Olympic-Rosita” “Son Vince” Inbred to “Kittel” “Double Rosita” “Dubbele Kittel” =============DAM:ZA-2024-OP-9311 Mc Dermott Lofts.Her father is a full brother “Turbo Kittel” • 1e Ace Pigeon FCI in the World!!!! • 5x Winner in his first year. • 1e Ace Bird Overall South Africa.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	yoken	R5,000	Winning Bid: R7,500
18th January 2026 17:44	LOT 20 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5654 -SIRE:ZA-2022-CRU-102.”BROTHER MIENKE”.Pigeon Palace.Brother to “Mienke” • 1e Final Dinokeng Big Money 2021. • 2e Final Barzalona Car Race 2021. One of the best ever at Dinokeng! Full brother to the mother of “Lara” • 1e Ace Blue Jacket Afrika Pro 2025. • 1e Ace Brown Jacket Afrika Pro 2025. • 3e Final Afrika Pro Series 601km 2025. Full brother to the mother of “Fiero” • 2e Final Afrika Pro Series 601km 2025. ====================DAM:ZA-2023-TRPF-12139 Mc Dermott Lofts Bont She is bred from: • 1e Final Saipr Winner 2022. • 1e Final Carnival Summer Winner. Same Family that won Diaz Lofts!! (for Johann Grobelaar).SEE PEDIGREE!!!	marais-brothers	R6,000	Winning Bid: R7,000
18th January 2026 17:43	LOT 24 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5682 -SIRE:ZA-2021-GPU-12863 Mc Dermott Lofts Kittel Bont Super Kittel Genetics! “Jardin” Daughter “Greipel” “Konica” Brother “Olympic-Rosita” “Son Vince” Inbred to “Kittel” “Double Rosita” “Dubbele Kittel” =============DAM:ZA-2024-OP-9311 Mc Dermott Lofts.Her father is a full brother “Turbo Kittel” • 1e Ace Pigeon FCI in the World!!!! • 5x Winner in his first year. • 1e Ace Bird Overall South Africa.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	outafric	R5,000	Winning Bid: R5,000
18th January 2026 17:42	LOT 24 SURPRISE AUCTION – ZA 25 TRPF 5682 -SIRE:ZA-2021-GPU-12863 Mc Dermott Lofts Kittel Bont Super Kittel Genetics! “Jardin” Daughter “Greipel” “Konica” Brother “Olympic-Rosita” “Son Vince” Inbred to “Kittel” “Double Rosita” “Dubbele Kittel” =============DAM:ZA-2024-OP-9311 Mc Dermott Lofts.Her father is a full brother “Turbo Kittel” • 1e Ace Pigeon FCI in the World!!!! • 5x Winner in his first year. • 1e Ace Bird Overall South Africa.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	dodge-ram	R4,500	Winning Bid: R5,000

ACTIVE AUCTION - KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 - FROM 25 OCTOBER TO WEDNESDAY 29 OCTOBER 2025 (ENDING FROM 20:00)

LOT 11 KITTEL MANIA AUCTION 2 – NWHU 25 C 0515 -SIRE:IHUS 21 117690. BRED FROM SON AND DAUGHTER GRIEPEL AND SISTER OLYMPIC ROSITA.————-DAM:IHUS 21 117692 “HERBIE’S CHOICE”. THIS IS AN INBRED DOUBLE GRANDCHILD TO LEGENDARY “KITTEL”. SEE PEDIGREE!!!