ACTIVE AUCTION - ANDRE ERASMUS - FROM 11 APRIL TO SUNDAY 14 APRIL 2024 (ENDS FROM 14:45)

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.LOT 1 ANDRE ERASMUS – ZA 22 SANPO 22469—–SIRE: 6173 NKHPT 21 . JJJ VAN DER LINDE. HIS SIRE IS “JIMMY’S BOY” SUPERBREEDER. “JIMMY’S BOY” IS FULL BROTHER TO JBM’S GIRL WHO SOLD FOR R86000.00 ON TOP PIGEON.——–Dam: 14810 ZA 15 Colour: BB FINE DESIGN . 810 SABLON COLLECTION. DIRECT CHILD TO “BOYTJIE”(SOLD FOR R52 000.00) AND “JBM’S GIRL” (SOLD FOR R86 000.00) . INBRED AND LINEBRED TO SUPERBREEDER “810” & “970” BRED FOR STOCK DAM TO JBM`S “DAILY LOTTERY” 2017 ENTRY SAPIR INT. ONE DAY LOFT RACE FOR JBM HERTZOG 2ND (EQUAL WINNER WALKED IN SECOND) HOT SPOT 3 1/09/17 -1650.9394 M/MIN -370KM.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
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.LOT 2 ANDRE ERASMUS – ZA 22 VPU 9450——SIRE:ZA 20 VPU 953. TOM LOCK FOUNDATION. THIS IS S SON OF ONE OF THE TOP OOA TOM LOCK COCKS.———–DAM:ZA 21 VPU 8435. TOM LOCK FOUNDATION. DIRECT CHILD TO ONE OF OUR TOM LOCK FOUNDATION BIRDS.SEE PEDIGREE!!!
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.LOT 3 ANDRE ERASMUS -ZA 18 VPU 1316 BBWF C – OUR GOLDEN THREAD 08816 R80 000 TOM LOCK SUPER PAIR LINE.———- SIRE: ZA 17 GPU 08526 “ACE RACERS X BREEDERS”. OUT OF AFRICA ACES. THIS COCK IS A DIRECT SON OF 08816 “MOTHER OF THE LOFT”.———— DAM: 13 ZA 53896 “GOLDEN LADY” THIS IS A DIRECT DAUGHTER OF OF “MONEY MAKER” AND “MOTHER OF THE LOFT”. SEE PEDIGREE!!
Winning Bid: R3,000 Auction finished Auction finished

Date	Auction	Username	Bid	Status
11th November 2026 20:19	.LOT 9 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5467 -Sire: ZA ABL 1448 ‘24 – “LAST SON SUPER TT” A direct son of the legendary “SUPER TT” (ZA 06121 ‘15) – one of the most proven breeders in South Africa. This line is built on the powerful Golden TT × Little Tom foundation, responsible for multiple winners and top performers. The family has already produced elite racers, including Best Middle Distance performers and birds competing at the highest national level. A tightly bred genetic package of consistency, class, and proven breeding power.————DAM:6715 ZA 21 NKHPT.Alias “DAUGHTER JBM’s GIRL” Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar ZA NKHPT 6715 ’21 DAUGHTER JBM’S GIRL direct daughter to BOYTJIE x JBM’s GIRL. Full sister to ROCKY who bred ZA BPF/D 6986 ’19 PILOT EYE 4th ACE bird OLR Dinokeng 2020 and 8th Barzalona race, Gariep Dam, 624km, 985 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 934 ’21 MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner at OLR Dinokeng 2021, Barzalona race, Hanover, 1052 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 992 .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	louis12345	R2,500	Current bid: R2,500
11th November 2026 20:16	.LOT 9 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5467 -Sire: ZA ABL 1448 ‘24 – “LAST SON SUPER TT” A direct son of the legendary “SUPER TT” (ZA 06121 ‘15) – one of the most proven breeders in South Africa. This line is built on the powerful Golden TT × Little Tom foundation, responsible for multiple winners and top performers. The family has already produced elite racers, including Best Middle Distance performers and birds competing at the highest national level. A tightly bred genetic package of consistency, class, and proven breeding power.————DAM:6715 ZA 21 NKHPT.Alias “DAUGHTER JBM’s GIRL” Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar ZA NKHPT 6715 ’21 DAUGHTER JBM’S GIRL direct daughter to BOYTJIE x JBM’s GIRL. Full sister to ROCKY who bred ZA BPF/D 6986 ’19 PILOT EYE 4th ACE bird OLR Dinokeng 2020 and 8th Barzalona race, Gariep Dam, 624km, 985 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 934 ’21 MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner at OLR Dinokeng 2021, Barzalona race, Hanover, 1052 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 992 .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	wjtheron	R2,000	Current bid: R2,500
11th November 2026 20:12	.LOT 8 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9199 -SIRE: 3406 ZA 22 GPU .Alias “SON PIPPA” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar Bred from 10150 x PIPPA. Super racing cock, Boksburg Club winner and 3rd GPU from Beaufort-West 2024, 870km. Bred from our best Tom Lock x Sablon Genetics.————DAM:3048 ZA 23 GPU .Alias “MISS CONSISTENT” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar OERF Specialist Racing Pigeon Club Verkeerdevlei OB 6th place. 13 June 2026. 322.474km, Speed 1345.60 m/min. 12 members, 261 birds.SEEPEDIGREE!!!!	silverbacks	R2,000	Winning Bid: R2,000
11th November 2026 20:12	.LOT 9 JACO & DANIE – ZA 25 GPU 5467 -Sire: ZA ABL 1448 ‘24 – “LAST SON SUPER TT” A direct son of the legendary “SUPER TT” (ZA 06121 ‘15) – one of the most proven breeders in South Africa. This line is built on the powerful Golden TT × Little Tom foundation, responsible for multiple winners and top performers. The family has already produced elite racers, including Best Middle Distance performers and birds competing at the highest national level. A tightly bred genetic package of consistency, class, and proven breeding power.————DAM:6715 ZA 21 NKHPT.Alias “DAUGHTER JBM’s GIRL” Strain: Danie Scholtz Color: Blue Bar ZA NKHPT 6715 ’21 DAUGHTER JBM’S GIRL direct daughter to BOYTJIE x JBM’s GIRL. Full sister to ROCKY who bred ZA BPF/D 6986 ’19 PILOT EYE 4th ACE bird OLR Dinokeng 2020 and 8th Barzalona race, Gariep Dam, 624km, 985 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 934 ’21 MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner at OLR Dinokeng 2021, Barzalona race, Hanover, 1052 m/min. ROCKY is grandfather to ZA BPF 992 .SEE PEDIGREE!!!	louis12345	R1,500	Current bid: R2,500
11th November 2026 20:10	.LOT 8 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9199 -SIRE: 3406 ZA 22 GPU .Alias “SON PIPPA” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar Bred from 10150 x PIPPA. Super racing cock, Boksburg Club winner and 3rd GPU from Beaufort-West 2024, 870km. Bred from our best Tom Lock x Sablon Genetics.————DAM:3048 ZA 23 GPU .Alias “MISS CONSISTENT” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar OERF Specialist Racing Pigeon Club Verkeerdevlei OB 6th place. 13 June 2026. 322.474km, Speed 1345.60 m/min. 12 members, 261 birds.SEEPEDIGREE!!!!	new-tide-lofts	R1,500	Winning Bid: R2,000
11th November 2026 20:09	.LOT 7 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9232 -SIRE:2334 ZA 19 ZULU.Alias “SONIC” Strain: Badenhorst Hokke Color: Blue Check ZULU 2334 ’19 SONIC – 2nd place Barzalona 2020. ZULU 0252 ’18 – 4th place (equal winner) 2019 Barzalona race. ZA 10830 ’16 – 2018 SANPO Double Gold Long Distance (Bred by Badenhorst Lofts raced by Alwyn Bester). This pair has bred us long list of club, Zululand combine and KZN Combine winners. SONIC sire to Pixie – Carnival entry 2023, Heilbron training 12th, Terreblanch training.————DAM:3172 ZA 23 GPU.Alias “DTR 3 OLIVIA” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar SAIPR Winter Entry 2024. ACE Pigeon after HS 3. Results: HS 1 275km: 11 / 328 Velocity: 1796 m/min HS 2 355km: 6 / 317 Velocity: 1318 m/min HS 3 438km: 9 / 308 Velocity: 1299 m/min HS 4 505km: 226 / 281 Velocity: 145 m/min FINAL 580km: 177 / 232 Velocity: 202 m/min.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	adri1346yahoo-com	R5,000	Winning Bid: R5,000
11th November 2026 20:09	.LOT 7 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9232 -SIRE:2334 ZA 19 ZULU.Alias “SONIC” Strain: Badenhorst Hokke Color: Blue Check ZULU 2334 ’19 SONIC – 2nd place Barzalona 2020. ZULU 0252 ’18 – 4th place (equal winner) 2019 Barzalona race. ZA 10830 ’16 – 2018 SANPO Double Gold Long Distance (Bred by Badenhorst Lofts raced by Alwyn Bester). This pair has bred us long list of club, Zululand combine and KZN Combine winners. SONIC sire to Pixie – Carnival entry 2023, Heilbron training 12th, Terreblanch training.————DAM:3172 ZA 23 GPU.Alias “DTR 3 OLIVIA” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar SAIPR Winter Entry 2024. ACE Pigeon after HS 3. Results: HS 1 275km: 11 / 328 Velocity: 1796 m/min HS 2 355km: 6 / 317 Velocity: 1318 m/min HS 3 438km: 9 / 308 Velocity: 1299 m/min HS 4 505km: 226 / 281 Velocity: 145 m/min FINAL 580km: 177 / 232 Velocity: 202 m/min.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	andrebrand72gmail-com	R4,500	Winning Bid: R5,000
11th November 2026 20:08	.LOT 7 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9232 -SIRE:2334 ZA 19 ZULU.Alias “SONIC” Strain: Badenhorst Hokke Color: Blue Check ZULU 2334 ’19 SONIC – 2nd place Barzalona 2020. ZULU 0252 ’18 – 4th place (equal winner) 2019 Barzalona race. ZA 10830 ’16 – 2018 SANPO Double Gold Long Distance (Bred by Badenhorst Lofts raced by Alwyn Bester). This pair has bred us long list of club, Zululand combine and KZN Combine winners. SONIC sire to Pixie – Carnival entry 2023, Heilbron training 12th, Terreblanch training.————DAM:3172 ZA 23 GPU.Alias “DTR 3 OLIVIA” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar SAIPR Winter Entry 2024. ACE Pigeon after HS 3. Results: HS 1 275km: 11 / 328 Velocity: 1796 m/min HS 2 355km: 6 / 317 Velocity: 1318 m/min HS 3 438km: 9 / 308 Velocity: 1299 m/min HS 4 505km: 226 / 281 Velocity: 145 m/min FINAL 580km: 177 / 232 Velocity: 202 m/min.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	andrebrand72gmail-com	R3,500	Winning Bid: R5,000
11th November 2026 20:08	.LOT 7 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9232 -SIRE:2334 ZA 19 ZULU.Alias “SONIC” Strain: Badenhorst Hokke Color: Blue Check ZULU 2334 ’19 SONIC – 2nd place Barzalona 2020. ZULU 0252 ’18 – 4th place (equal winner) 2019 Barzalona race. ZA 10830 ’16 – 2018 SANPO Double Gold Long Distance (Bred by Badenhorst Lofts raced by Alwyn Bester). This pair has bred us long list of club, Zululand combine and KZN Combine winners. SONIC sire to Pixie – Carnival entry 2023, Heilbron training 12th, Terreblanch training.————DAM:3172 ZA 23 GPU.Alias “DTR 3 OLIVIA” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar SAIPR Winter Entry 2024. ACE Pigeon after HS 3. Results: HS 1 275km: 11 / 328 Velocity: 1796 m/min HS 2 355km: 6 / 317 Velocity: 1318 m/min HS 3 438km: 9 / 308 Velocity: 1299 m/min HS 4 505km: 226 / 281 Velocity: 145 m/min FINAL 580km: 177 / 232 Velocity: 202 m/min.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	adri1346yahoo-com	R4,000	Winning Bid: R5,000
11th November 2026 20:07	.LOT 7 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9232 -SIRE:2334 ZA 19 ZULU.Alias “SONIC” Strain: Badenhorst Hokke Color: Blue Check ZULU 2334 ’19 SONIC – 2nd place Barzalona 2020. ZULU 0252 ’18 – 4th place (equal winner) 2019 Barzalona race. ZA 10830 ’16 – 2018 SANPO Double Gold Long Distance (Bred by Badenhorst Lofts raced by Alwyn Bester). This pair has bred us long list of club, Zululand combine and KZN Combine winners. SONIC sire to Pixie – Carnival entry 2023, Heilbron training 12th, Terreblanch training.————DAM:3172 ZA 23 GPU.Alias “DTR 3 OLIVIA” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar SAIPR Winter Entry 2024. ACE Pigeon after HS 3. Results: HS 1 275km: 11 / 328 Velocity: 1796 m/min HS 2 355km: 6 / 317 Velocity: 1318 m/min HS 3 438km: 9 / 308 Velocity: 1299 m/min HS 4 505km: 226 / 281 Velocity: 145 m/min FINAL 580km: 177 / 232 Velocity: 202 m/min.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	adri1346yahoo-com	R3,000	Winning Bid: R5,000
11th November 2026 20:06	.LOT 7 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9232 -SIRE:2334 ZA 19 ZULU.Alias “SONIC” Strain: Badenhorst Hokke Color: Blue Check ZULU 2334 ’19 SONIC – 2nd place Barzalona 2020. ZULU 0252 ’18 – 4th place (equal winner) 2019 Barzalona race. ZA 10830 ’16 – 2018 SANPO Double Gold Long Distance (Bred by Badenhorst Lofts raced by Alwyn Bester). This pair has bred us long list of club, Zululand combine and KZN Combine winners. SONIC sire to Pixie – Carnival entry 2023, Heilbron training 12th, Terreblanch training.————DAM:3172 ZA 23 GPU.Alias “DTR 3 OLIVIA” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar SAIPR Winter Entry 2024. ACE Pigeon after HS 3. Results: HS 1 275km: 11 / 328 Velocity: 1796 m/min HS 2 355km: 6 / 317 Velocity: 1318 m/min HS 3 438km: 9 / 308 Velocity: 1299 m/min HS 4 505km: 226 / 281 Velocity: 145 m/min FINAL 580km: 177 / 232 Velocity: 202 m/min.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	andrebrand72gmail-com	R2,500	Winning Bid: R5,000
11th November 2026 20:06	LOT 13 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 OERF 17856 -SIRE:73641050 DV 24.Alias “GREIPEL/KITTEL” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: Blue Bar.————-DAM:7392231 DV 23.DIRK VAN DEN BULCK.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	garys-loft	R3,500	Current bid: R3,500
11th November 2026 20:05	.LOT 6 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 JACO & DANIE 017 -SIRE:2172 DV 21 7364.Alias “CHILD RED KITTEL” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: BLUE CHECK WF GRAND CHILD KITTEL. Bred by Irmer & Sohn. Sire to ZA GPU 2989 ’23 DTR CHILD RED KITTEL, 2nd ACE BIRD Dinokeng OLR 2024. Following positions flown: HS 1: 252km, 37th position HS 3: 392km, 10th position HS 4: 447km, 15th position HS 5: 556km, 5th position HS 6: 624km, 4th position HS7: 303km, 5th position————DAM:25760 GB 25 .Alias “RED RUM KAT” Strain: GARY COX Color: MEALIE PIED Raced as a Yearling for Gary Cox. Made her mark in the raceloft.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	danke	R3,500	Winning Bid: R3,500
11th November 2026 20:04	.LOT 7 JACO & DANIE – ZA 24 GPU 9232 -SIRE:2334 ZA 19 ZULU.Alias “SONIC” Strain: Badenhorst Hokke Color: Blue Check ZULU 2334 ’19 SONIC – 2nd place Barzalona 2020. ZULU 0252 ’18 – 4th place (equal winner) 2019 Barzalona race. ZA 10830 ’16 – 2018 SANPO Double Gold Long Distance (Bred by Badenhorst Lofts raced by Alwyn Bester). This pair has bred us long list of club, Zululand combine and KZN Combine winners. SONIC sire to Pixie – Carnival entry 2023, Heilbron training 12th, Terreblanch training.————DAM:3172 ZA 23 GPU.Alias “DTR 3 OLIVIA” Strain: J Faul & DJ Scholtz Color: Blue Bar SAIPR Winter Entry 2024. ACE Pigeon after HS 3. Results: HS 1 275km: 11 / 328 Velocity: 1796 m/min HS 2 355km: 6 / 317 Velocity: 1318 m/min HS 3 438km: 9 / 308 Velocity: 1299 m/min HS 4 505km: 226 / 281 Velocity: 145 m/min FINAL 580km: 177 / 232 Velocity: 202 m/min.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	adri1346yahoo-com	R2,000	Winning Bid: R5,000
11th November 2026 20:02	LOT 16 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 TURFPET 13339 -SIRE:8234325 NLD 22.Alias “TEXAS” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: HAMMERED PEID OUT OF PADELI SUPER BREEDER OUT OF BROTHER GOEDE RODE AND GOLDEN LEO 9999.————DAM:0316 NWHU 19.Alias “IRISH BLUE” Strain: VAN DEN BULCK Color: Blue Bar 1\2 SISTER TO JACK DANIELS SIRE TO 1 NAT SKIOBBEREEN 2017 FROM SUPERBREEDER KLEIN DUIVERKE.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	garys-loft	R2,000	Current bid: R2,000
11th November 2026 20:01	.LOT 2 JACO & DANIE -ZA 24 GPU 9002 -SIRE:8234325 NLD 22 .Alias “TEXAS” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: HAMMERED PEID OUT OF PADELI SUPER BREEDER OUT OF BROTHER GOEDE RODE AND GOLDEN LEO 9999 .———–DAM:1077 ZA 17 NHL.Alias “BALL OF GOLD” Strain: Jaco Faul SISTER SANPO GOLD LONG DISTANCE. THIS HEN PROOVEN BREEDER OF WINNERS.BRED BEST LONGDISTANCE BIRD GPU 2ND AND 6TH BEST LONGDISTANCE BIRD GPU.BRED 20TH FINAL AFRICA PRO 2022.SEE PEDIGREE!!!	markfreeman198gmail-com	R2,000	Winning Bid: R2,000
11th November 2026 20:01	.LOT 6 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 JACO & DANIE 017 -SIRE:2172 DV 21 7364.Alias “CHILD RED KITTEL” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: BLUE CHECK WF GRAND CHILD KITTEL. Bred by Irmer & Sohn. Sire to ZA GPU 2989 ’23 DTR CHILD RED KITTEL, 2nd ACE BIRD Dinokeng OLR 2024. Following positions flown: HS 1: 252km, 37th position HS 3: 392km, 10th position HS 4: 447km, 15th position HS 5: 556km, 5th position HS 6: 624km, 4th position HS7: 303km, 5th position————DAM:25760 GB 25 .Alias “RED RUM KAT” Strain: GARY COX Color: MEALIE PIED Raced as a Yearling for Gary Cox. Made her mark in the raceloft.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	garys-loft	R3,000	Winning Bid: R3,500
11th November 2026 20:01	.LOT 6 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 JACO & DANIE 017 -SIRE:2172 DV 21 7364.Alias “CHILD RED KITTEL” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: BLUE CHECK WF GRAND CHILD KITTEL. Bred by Irmer & Sohn. Sire to ZA GPU 2989 ’23 DTR CHILD RED KITTEL, 2nd ACE BIRD Dinokeng OLR 2024. Following positions flown: HS 1: 252km, 37th position HS 3: 392km, 10th position HS 4: 447km, 15th position HS 5: 556km, 5th position HS 6: 624km, 4th position HS7: 303km, 5th position————DAM:25760 GB 25 .Alias “RED RUM KAT” Strain: GARY COX Color: MEALIE PIED Raced as a Yearling for Gary Cox. Made her mark in the raceloft.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	begginer	R2,500	Winning Bid: R3,500
11th November 2026 20:00	.LOT 6 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 JACO & DANIE 017 -SIRE:2172 DV 21 7364.Alias “CHILD RED KITTEL” Strain: DIRK Van Den BULCK Color: BLUE CHECK WF GRAND CHILD KITTEL. Bred by Irmer & Sohn. Sire to ZA GPU 2989 ’23 DTR CHILD RED KITTEL, 2nd ACE BIRD Dinokeng OLR 2024. Following positions flown: HS 1: 252km, 37th position HS 3: 392km, 10th position HS 4: 447km, 15th position HS 5: 556km, 5th position HS 6: 624km, 4th position HS7: 303km, 5th position————DAM:25760 GB 25 .Alias “RED RUM KAT” Strain: GARY COX Color: MEALIE PIED Raced as a Yearling for Gary Cox. Made her mark in the raceloft.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	garys-loft	R2,000	Winning Bid: R3,500
11th November 2026 19:51	.LOT 3 JACO & DANIE – ZA 26 JACO & DANIE 026 -Sire, ROCKY X DREAM, son of ROCKY who sired PILOT EYE 4th ACE bird Dinokeng 2020 & 8th Barzalona race. ROCKY is g/father to MISS NAVIGATOR, Bakkie Winner Dinokeng 2021. ROCKY g/father to STORM CHASER, Dinokeng Final Winner, by 4 minutes. STORM CHASER dam to AFRICAN LEGEND, winner of 1st ACE pigeon overall & 2nd Place on the drop, Dinokeng Final 2026. Dam, LIENKE, bred consistent racers in 2026 for Jaco & Danie. LIENKE full sister to DREAM. DREAM dam of LINDIE, dam of MISS NAVIGATOR. Bred for stock, for our BEST SABLON 810 Genetics.SEE PEDIGREE!!!!	et	R7,500	Winning Bid: R7,500

ACTIVE AUCTION - ANDRE ERASMUS - FROM 11 APRIL TO SUNDAY 14 APRIL 2024 (ENDS FROM 14:45)

.LOT 2 ANDRE ERASMUS – ZA 22 VPU 9450——SIRE:ZA 20 VPU 953. TOM LOCK FOUNDATION. THIS IS S SON OF ONE OF THE TOP OOA TOM LOCK COCKS.———–DAM:ZA 21 VPU 8435. TOM LOCK FOUNDATION. DIRECT CHILD TO ONE OF OUR TOM LOCK FOUNDATION BIRDS.SEE PEDIGREE!!!